If you're dominated, does that count as 'willing' for teleport?

[Olive]

SO I'm guessing charm person would work too?

 

[Moon-Lancer]

if I give a girl (or guy) roofies, does she count as willing.... I should hope not. sorry thats a poor straw man. but it really makes you think.

its not thier will, and thus it cant be willing. its in fact of the will of the person who cast dominate.

 

[seans23]

if I give a girl (or guy) roofies, does she count as willing.... I should hope not. sorry thats a poor straw man. but it really makes you think.

It's a pretty bad straw man...


Rohypnol can cause these problems:

* can't remember what happened while drugged
* lower blood pressure
* sleepiness
* muscle relaxation or loss of muscle control
* drunk feeling
* nausea
* problems talking
* difficulty with motor movements
* loss of consciousness
* confusion
* problems seeing
* dizziness
* confusion
* stomach problems


You see? Nothing about enchantment(compulsion)

Now pardon me, I have a date with Hextor.

 

[Thanee]

* confusion

You see? Nothing about enchantment(compulsion)

No?

Confusion
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]

Bye
Thanee

 

[seans23]

No?

doh! I knew I should have looked up confusion first.

Some compulsion spells determine the subject’s actions or the effects on the subject, some compulsion spells allow you to determine the subject’s actions when you cast the spell, and others give you ongoing control over the subject

 

[Salthorae]

No?
Bye
Thanee

Ooo.. Well done

I would have to say that yes, they would count as "willing" because they are no longer in control of their own wills once under the Dominate Person. Unless as stated above... you are trying to Teleport Mr. T, in which case he'd get a new saving throw vs. dominate.

 

[frankthedm]

if I give a girl (or guy) roofies, does she count as willing...

If it renders her unconscious then D&D Magic considers her willing. Hmmm, now Boccob looks a lot creepier…

sorry thats a poor straw man. but it really makes you think.

Make me think of the olde orcish proverb

The unconscious are always willing.​

its not their will, and thus it cant be willing. its in fact of the will of the person who cast dominate.

That’s is a possible argument for dominate in comparison to charm.