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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xahn'Tyr" data-source="post: 84470" data-attributes="member: 1525">If a ferret is a tiny animal, then it has no reach, does not threaten an area outside of it's own square, and cannot flank. Even to attack, it would have to enter the same square as the lizard man (attack of opportunity). And even then it would not flank as it is no longer "directly across" from the munchkin rogue/mage.Now if he has a dire rat as a familar ...Anyway, if I were to house rule for ignoring someone I'd say that you are actively making yourself helpless with regards to them (except no dex bonus rather than no dex). I would also have the ignorer make concentration checks to avoid being distracted by the hits etc.. If the concentration check fails, then you wince, flinch, or otherwise react enough to allow the other person a flanking bonus (and sneak attacks).Note that you also do not threaten the ignored person so they are free to trip, disarm, sunder, or grapple all they like. You can't oppose the grapple check because you are ignoring them. (And did I mention that once you are grappled, you lose your Dex to everyone outside the grapple?) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Ignore the goblin, fine - the rogue cannot sneak attack you. Then the goblin of course jumps on your back and starts beating on your head. NOW the rogue can sneak attack you.As for the invisibility incongruity, an invisible person makes noise and it is assumed that the victim WANTS to avoid being hurt by stuff. That make them far better off than someone actively trying to ignore a known danger. In other words, you are more dangerous when being ignored, then when simply invisible. Now if you were invisible, and silent, and scentless, and causing no vibrations in the floor, and sneaking up on someone with no sense of self-preservation what-so-ever; then I would probably give you an equivalent bonus.</blockquote>

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