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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6884598" data-attributes="member: 996">Why'd you ask?&nbsp;So, when you asked:Your point was not that no edition did that, but that all did?&nbsp; Nope.&nbsp; Note the word 'relative.'&nbsp; It's really /mostly/ about the zietgiest surrounding each edition.&nbsp; 3.5 had the RAW obsession &amp; 4e clarity/balance, the pendulum has swung the other way in 5e.&nbsp; In each case, the games have characteristics that support or provoked those attitudes, in the case of 5e, they were intentional from the start (Mr. Mearls came right out and said what he was aiming for during the playtest), in the case of 3.x, they came out later (Cook, in passing, in Ivory Tower Game Design).&nbsp; But, ultimately, the DM always had the final say, they were just more inclined to use it back in the day, and, now, again under 5e, than in the 3e/4e era.&nbsp; That may be summing up 30+ years of D&amp;D history a little glibly, and I don't know how much that history you personally were paying attention for (or why you'd want to argue about it), but that's about the size of it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6884598, member: 996"] Why'd you ask? So, when you asked: Your point was not that no edition did that, but that all did? Nope. Note the word 'relative.' It's really /mostly/ about the zietgiest surrounding each edition. 3.5 had the RAW obsession & 4e clarity/balance, the pendulum has swung the other way in 5e. In each case, the games have characteristics that support or provoked those attitudes, in the case of 5e, they were intentional from the start (Mr. Mearls came right out and said what he was aiming for during the playtest), in the case of 3.x, they came out later (Cook, in passing, in Ivory Tower Game Design). But, ultimately, the DM always had the final say, they were just more inclined to use it back in the day, and, now, again under 5e, than in the 3e/4e era. That may be summing up 30+ years of D&D history a little glibly, and I don't know how much that history you personally were paying attention for (or why you'd want to argue about it), but that's about the size of it. [/QUOTE]

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