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<blockquote data-quote="happyhermit" data-source="post: 6886912" data-attributes="member: 6834463">First you say this;Then you say this;You are contradicting yourself.Exceptional ability to contain enemies in melee =/= bad at ranged.Reflecting enemy attacks and heavy armour =/= bad a ranged. Again, does not preclude having a decent dex.No, the 4e fighter will not be fine, unless they fall back in line with the prescribed playstyle. If they try using a bow they will be very nearly useless within the &quot;tightly balanced system&quot; because it expects certain things. Pretty much any 5e character with the same dex as that 4e fighter will be more effective (relative to the system) using a bow than the 4e fighter using a bow. Not just the 5e ranger, and not just the 5e fighter.Because of bounded accuracy, coupled with the fact that a &quot;standard attack&quot; is not substandard the way it was with AEDU, and other factors, 5e is more flexible in this way. Not only does it allow the fighter to be equally good with multiple attack types, it allows other classes to be decent with them as well, especially if they have the appropriate stats.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="happyhermit, post: 6886912, member: 6834463"] First you say this; Then you say this; You are contradicting yourself. [U]Exceptional[/U] ability to contain enemies in melee =/= bad at ranged. Reflecting enemy attacks and heavy armour =/= bad a ranged. Again, does not preclude having a decent dex. No, the 4e fighter will not be fine, unless they fall back in line with the prescribed playstyle. If they try using a bow they will be very nearly useless within the "tightly balanced system" because it expects certain things. Pretty much any 5e character with the same dex as that 4e fighter will be more effective (relative to the system) using a bow than the 4e fighter using a bow. Not just the 5e ranger, and not just the 5e fighter. Because of bounded accuracy, coupled with the fact that a "standard attack" is not substandard the way it was with AEDU, and other factors, 5e is more flexible in this way. Not only does it allow the fighter to be equally good with multiple attack types, it allows other classes to be decent with them as well, especially if they have the appropriate stats. [/QUOTE]

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