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<blockquote data-quote="Odhanan" data-source="post: 3822983" data-attributes="member: 12324">I'll be buying the three core books. That much is sure. I'll give 4E, the system itself, a chance, and I expect it to not suck. Whether I would use it is another matter entirely, but I think I would at the very least plunder it for 3.5 house rules. Really, my concerns are not about the system. It's how the business model, everything that surrounds the game, which I'm interested in just like I love the game itself, running it and playing it, that worries me. I'm not crying for doomsday, I'm worried given the selected beans that have been spilled so far.I have had exactly the same experience with the exact same post.You don't understand, my friend, because that's not what I'm saying at all. I wish I would be all excited about 4E, about the DI, about everything else. I'm not. And further, I'm getting the impression that I'm &quot;being fired&quot;. Sure I'll always be able to play edition X of D&amp;D. I don't have to buy what I don't like. That's not what I'm talking about though. Can't you see it?Yes, close enough. I wouldn't feel remorse because I wouldn't buy something I don't like, like virtual minis, WTF indeed (though again, I'll buy the core books), but it makes me sad to think that D&amp;D would become something I just don't feel is D&amp;D anymore, and that we would have to part our ways as a result. I think you get what I mean.So you already made your peace with it because it already started with 3E.I love 3rd ed. But I read what you write here under a new light, beyond the nitpicking about &quot;but PrCs are fine&quot; and stuff like that. I see what you mean beyond the example. That scares me to think that Eric Noah would be right, that it's all part of aging, that sooner or later, we'll all meet the edition that makes D&amp;D unrecognizable for us.It's like I'd be fired from the coolness of the &quot;cutting edge D&amp;D&quot;, to steal your expression.Indeed, I'm not laughing any more.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Odhanan, post: 3822983, member: 12324"] I'll be buying the three core books. That much is sure. I'll give 4E, the system itself, a chance, and I expect it to not suck. Whether I would use it is another matter entirely, but I think I would at the very least plunder it for 3.5 house rules. Really, my concerns are not about the system. It's how the business model, everything that surrounds the game, which I'm interested in just like I love the game itself, running it and playing it, that worries me. I'm not crying for doomsday, I'm worried given the selected beans that have been spilled so far. I have had exactly the same experience with the exact same post. You don't understand, my friend, because that's not what I'm saying at all. I wish I would be all excited about 4E, about the DI, about everything else. I'm not. And further, I'm getting the impression that I'm "being fired". Sure I'll always be able to play edition X of D&D. I don't have to buy what I don't like. That's not what I'm talking about though. Can't you see it? Yes, close enough. I wouldn't feel remorse because I wouldn't buy something I don't like, like virtual minis, WTF indeed (though again, I'll buy the core books), but it makes me sad to think that D&D would become something I just don't feel is D&D anymore, and that we would have to part our ways as a result. I think you get what I mean. So you already made your peace with it because it already started with 3E. I love 3rd ed. But I read what you write here under a new light, beyond the nitpicking about "but PrCs are fine" and stuff like that. I see what you mean beyond the example. That scares me to think that Eric Noah would be right, that it's all part of aging, that sooner or later, we'll all meet the edition that makes D&D unrecognizable for us. It's like I'd be fired from the coolness of the "cutting edge D&D", to steal your expression. Indeed, I'm not laughing any more. [/QUOTE]

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