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<blockquote data-quote="Eosin the Red" data-source="post: 3823053" data-attributes="member: 168">Whizzle sticks never had much of a place at our table top. Sure, we tried a few but other than character generators they all seemed to add clunkiness to the game rather than streamline it. I quit d20 for a simpler game - Hero System. I am better able to make up NPCs on the fly in Hero than d20... who'd of thunk it? With 4E on the horizon, I like what I see so far. Each iteration of D&amp;D changes the concept of the game - I am here to tell you that 1E, 2E, and 3E are not the same animal in different skins. You can't even simulate 3E characters in the previous editions beyond mid-level play (10th level of so). Are they all D&amp;D? Sure. They function in entirely different pathways but the essence of the game remains even if the influences have changed.I am looking forward to what 4E brings but it is possible that I won't like it when I dig into the book. We'll just have to see. If not, there is still Hero.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eosin the Red, post: 3823053, member: 168"] Whizzle sticks never had much of a place at our table top. Sure, we tried a few but other than character generators they all seemed to add clunkiness to the game rather than streamline it. I quit d20 for a simpler game - Hero System. I am better able to make up NPCs on the fly in Hero than d20... who'd of thunk it? With 4E on the horizon, I like what I see so far. Each iteration of D&D changes the concept of the game - I am here to tell you that 1E, 2E, and 3E are not the same animal in different skins. You can't even simulate 3E characters in the previous editions beyond mid-level play (10th level of so). Are they all D&D? Sure. They function in entirely different pathways but the essence of the game remains even if the influences have changed. I am looking forward to what 4E brings but it is possible that I won't like it when I dig into the book. We'll just have to see. If not, there is still Hero. [/QUOTE]

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