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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 8856407" data-attributes="member: 326">You have to take the good with the bad and roll with it amigo.Ascension is 162 pages but might bump it up to 168-176 ish. Have some extra artwork.Was a nice surprise.I appreciate it Beefy!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> What annoys me is that in 1st Ed. the Monster Manuals and Deities & Demigods would have 4 monsters or gods per page. Now, if lucky I can get one epic monster onto 2 pages.Imagine I do a book that includes the Umbrals...its going to be 30 pages of shadowy blob monsters, whereas in the past you could probably squeeze that into 5-6 pages in 1st Ed.Those two books will be amazing...eventually. Just hoping I don't turn it into three books in 2023.But 5E does appear to be extremely playable at crazy levels* - whereas in contrast I just think 3.5E has WAY too many feats/divine abilities/spells/skills/metamagic and its just going to put typical gamers off...and I know you guys are not typical gamers (neither was I back in my pomp).*You see a lot of threads where someone says 5E is unplayable at high level, but if you examine what they are saying; 75% of the time its that the monsters are not challenging...mine will be.</blockquote>