Immortals Handbook: Ascension 3.5E Print version...do you want one?

[Upper_Krust]

I am looking to kill two birds with one stone here. I want to test out the Print options for the Kickstarter of the new 5E Immortals Handbook and I also want a Print copy of 3.5E Immortals Handbook: Ascension for reference and helping me finish the new book in a few areas.

I just literally today found out I can simply convert the Ascension pdf to jpgs which simplifies everything.

So I am going to do a 164 page Hardcover, gloss page book with ribbon and have it printed out by one of the two Print companies I have my eye on (Mixam UK). The interior will still be black and white and I don't see myself having the time to add all the missing art, but I may throw in a few surprises.

I estimate it should only take me about 3-4* hours to put it all together (need new spine and back cover and so forth). I am very busy the next few days with work but should have the files ready to go for this time next week.

*So likely 6-8 then, knowing me.

So if anyone wants a copy, post in this thread before next Friday (16th of December) and I'll get an extra copy printed for you. Obviously the more that are printed the cheaper it is, so I was going to Print 6-7 anyway (Printing seven costs less than double getting one printed).

Not sure what a fair price would be...maybe $30 plus postage & packaging (possibly another $10-20 to North America) I'll have to check postage costs, something in around that amount. At such a low print numbers that will basically be me giving them at cost, so I am not doing this to make money.

Turnover time for the books is about 10 days, but over Christmas likely to be 14 days I'm guessing. So I would have them in my possession just before New Year or so if I send them the files next Friday.

I could get them signed and shipped out in early January.

So let me know if you are interested.

 

[LunarSquid]

I'm interested!

 

[MazzelDazzle]

Definitely interested. The opportunity to get a print copy of one of my favorite PDFs is too big to miss!

 

[Akira Whitlock]

Ooooo I would love that

 

[Beefermatic]

I am looking to kill two birds with one stone here. I want to test out the Print options for the Kickstarter of the new 5E Immortals Handbook and I also want a Print copy of 3.5E Immortals Handbook: Ascension for reference and helping me finish the new book in a few areas.

I just literally today found out I can simply convert the Ascension pdf to jpgs which simplifies everything.

So I am going to do a 164 page Hardcover, gloss page book with ribbon and have it printed out by one of the two Print companies I have my eye on (Mixam UK). The interior will still be black and white and I don't see myself having the time to add all the missing art, but I may throw in a few surprises.

I estimate it should only take me about 3-4* hours to put it all together (need new spine and back cover and so forth). I am very busy the next few days with work but should have the files ready to go for this time next week.

*So likely 6-8 then, knowing me.

So if anyone wants a copy, post in this thread before next Friday (16th of December) and I'll get an extra copy printed for you. Obviously the more that are printed the cheaper it is, so I was going to Print 6-7 anyway (Printing seven costs less than double getting one printed).

Not sure what a fair price would be...maybe $30 plus postage & packaging (possibly another $10-20 to North America) I'll have to check postage costs, something in around that amount. At such a low print numbers that will basically be me giving them at cost, so I am not doing this to make money.

Turnover time for the books is about 10 days, but over Christmas likely to be 14 days I'm guessing. So I would have them in my possession just before New Year or so if I send them the files next Friday.

I could get them signed and shipped out in early January.

So let me know if you are interested.

Oh hell yeah I'm interested! I have a crap one I made 10 years ago I still use just on a laser printer with a plastic cover, it'd be great to have a legit version of it.

 

[dave2008]

10 years ago I would have been on board, but I am pretty much all digital these days. Sounds like a great idea though.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Beefermatic buddy!

Oh hell yeah I'm interested! I have a crap one I made 10 years ago I still use just on a laser printer with a plastic cover, it'd be great to have a legit version of it.

Not simply 'legit', but top of the range, glossy paged, ribbon* bookmark, signed collector's edition.

*Wondering what colour would suit it best...?

 

[Alzrius]

I don't know how I missed this thread before, but my interest in this should obviously go without saying.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey dave amigo.

10 years ago I would have been on board, but I am pretty much all digital these days. Sounds like a great idea though.

I sort of know what you mean, I am running out of bookshelf space. I have four six foot bookshelves in this room alone and still have a handful of foot high book stacks on the floor.

However, I do still much prefer a physical copy to a pdf. Although the utility of digital is always handy.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Alzrius amigo!

I don't know how I missed this thread before, but my interest in this should obviously go without saying.

I was legit thinking of you when I made this thread my friend.

I literally only found out I could do pdf to jpeg yesterday. I thought I was going to have to go in and reformat every page by hand because the formatting didn't carry over from pdf to Affinity and it was up to an hour or more per page mate - it was like 50% of the spacing had been removed. The thought of it was crushing me...although I totally would have (after the 5e Immortal's Handbook that is; which is a brobdingnagian behemoth that makes respacing a 162 page book seem like a walk in the park).

Now I can just paste the pages as jpegs, edit stuff over the top (like page numbers). Add art over the top. Back cover and spine should be a doddle...even for one of the world's slowest writers.

 

[Beefermatic]

Hey Beefermatic buddy!



Not simply 'legit', but top of the range, glossy paged, ribbon* bookmark, signed collector's edition.

*Wondering what colour would suit it best...?

Very nice! I love it!

I'd say white, the hardcover version of the Epic Bestiary was black. Of course, you could always make it black as well so it matches

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hello again amigo!

Very nice! I love it!

I appreciate the support. Big thank you to everyone who keeps this Publisher Forum afloat with content. I know I am a useless dosser with updates and that's partly because I am spending so much time on this 5E book that I feel guilty when I do something else. Have virtually cut out all gaming* and television* in an effort to grind my way out of a quagmire of the ever increasing page count.

*Not that I was a prolific gamer or tv watcher to begin with, but every little helps.

I'd say white, the hardcover version of the Epic Bestiary was black. Of course, you could always make it black as well so it matches

I was originally thinking white or silver myself, but black will likely be a better contrast against the mostly white pages and I was also thinking black end pages will show up the (silver) signature nicely.

The Hardcover of the Epic Bestiary was not meant to have the black border on the front (obviously). That was a printing error by Mongoose who were using my book as the 'pioneer'* for their new printing partner in China at the time. Annoyed me when I got my copies.

*If not THE first then certainly one of the first.

I honestly don't know what I was thinking as regards the solid black back cover on the Bestiary. I probably should have at least dropped a blue-black vertical gradient like the 1E Monster Manual back cover. I probably had too much blurb as well. So don't see myself trying to emulate the layout of the Bestiary back cover with this Ascension print version. Will have a think on it though.

 

[Beefermatic]

Hello again amigo!



I appreciate the support. Big thank you to everyone who keeps this Publisher Forum afloat with content. I know I am a useless dosser with updates and that's partly because I am spending so much time on this 5E book that I feel guilty when I do something else. Have virtually cut out all gaming* and television* in an effort to grind my way out of a quagmire of the ever increasing page count.

*Not that I was a prolific gamer or tv watcher to begin with, but every little helps.

Nothing to be sorry for bud, those of us who love IH have been keeping the lantern lit

I was originally thinking white or silver myself, but black will likely be a better contrast against the mostly white pages and I was also thinking black end pages will show up the (silver) signature nicely.

That sounds like it'll look nice

The Hardcover of the Epic Bestiary was not meant to have the black border on the front (obviously). That was a printing error by Mongoose who were using my book as the 'pioneer'* for their new printing partner in China at the time. Annoyed me when I got my copies.

*If not THE first then certainly one of the first.

I honestly don't know what I was thinking as regards the solid black back cover on the Bestiary. I probably should have at least dropped a blue-black vertical gradient like the 1E Monster Manual back cover. I probably had too much blurb as well. So don't see myself trying to emulate the layout of the Bestiary back cover with this Ascension print version. Will have a think on it though.

Yeah... tbh the huge black border on the IH Bestiary Hardcover version looks pretty jank, that said, you live and learn.

Ironically my Hardcover IH Bestiary is almost in mint condition, it's only been used a couple times. My softcover version however has been repaired with a lot of tape and the cover is delaminating lol

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey buddy!

Nothing to be sorry for bud, those of us who love IH have been keeping the lantern lit.

Even so, I keep thinking what could have been.

That sounds like it'll look nice

I'm curious to see what the glossy pages look like in such a book.

Yeah... tbh the huge black border on the IH Bestiary Hardcover version looks pretty jank, that said, you live and learn.

I can laugh about it now but I remember sending a few incendiary emails to the staff in charge at the time.

I mean under no circumstances would anyone with any common sense think the irregular black border was intentional. Mondrian would have been proud of those irregular black lines.

Ironically my Hardcover IH Bestiary is almost in mint condition, it's only been used a couple times. My softcover version however has been repaired with a lot of tape and the cover is delaminating lol

My primary hardcover copy (I still have four I think) is dog-eared and shedding cover laminate with a vengeance. Interior still spotless though and the binding has held up really well to be fair.

Part of me still wants to do a Volume 2 (for fun), although I would be totally lost with 3.5E epic right now and I'm knee deep in this 5E book so this isn't the time for daydreaming.

 

[Beefermatic]

Hey buddy!



Even so, I keep thinking what could have been.

Eh, it is what it is

I'm curious to see what the glossy pages look like in such a book.

It's probably going to look great

I can laugh about it now but I remember sending a few incendiary emails to the staff in charge at the time.

I mean under no circumstances would anyone with any common sense think the irregular black border was intentional. Mondrian would have been proud of those irregular black lines.

I can imagine you weren't happy, wtf lol

My primary hardcover copy (I still have four I think) is dog-eared and shedding cover laminate with a vengeance. Interior still spotless though and the binding has held up really well to be fair.

Lol

Part of me still wants to do a Volume 2 (for fun), although I would be totally lost with 3.5E epic right now and I'm knee deep in this 5E book so this isn't the time for daydreaming.

Hey, maybe once you're done with the 5th Ed book. Might be fun. I'm pretty sure Obly and myself and some of the other content creators on here wouldn't mind you putting in some of our creations too, after all we've all put in a lot of hours trying to make IH relevant within the remaining PF and 3.5 community.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hello again Beefermatic mate!

Eh, it is what it is

C'est La Vie.

It's probably going to look great

I can imagine you weren't happy, wtf lol

Wasn't a good surprise opening the box of books. I vaguely recall someone from these forums had actually got their copy before me and warned me it was a botched job on the cover.

Hey, maybe once you're done with the 5th Ed book.

Possibly. I just got the art 90% sorted for the Ascension Revamp this afternoon (though circumstances with some of it dictate an extra 3-4 days before I can go to the printing company - So likely not this Friday but the following Wednesday in all likelihood). Didn't take long to do. I will be replacing the two Thor illustrations in Ascension but keeping all my other artwork.

Quite proud of the other artwork in Ascension - my Orcus illustration was used by a Youtuber in one of their videos about Orcus (Mr Rhexx I think it was) and I was pretty chuffed with that.

Might be fun. I'm pretty sure Obly and myself and some of the other content creators on here wouldn't mind you putting in some of our creations too, after all we've all put in a lot of hours trying to make IH relevant within the remaining PF and 3.5 community.

I wouldn't (and likely couldn't) do another 3.5E book without you guys helping.

Now that artwork is not a roadblock to progress it might be feasible to knock out a Bestiary Volume 2 and/or 3. Maybe 33% monsters from this forum, 33% new stuff and 34% conversions (from the 100 monsters in the) 5E Immortals Handbook which I can spread across Volumes 2 & 3. But lets not get ahead of ourselves here.

1. Ascension Print copy (in a week or so).
2. Immortals Handbook 5E (two enormous books when I learn to bend time and space and get them done).
3. We can think about the rest afterwards. 3.5E Bestiary Volume 2 for the 20th Anniversary in 2025 is making me chuckle though.

 

[Beefermatic]

Wasn't a good surprise opening the box of books. I vaguely recall someone from these forums had actually got their copy before me and warned me it was a botched job on the cover.

Oh man, I can imagine. That must have been extremely frustrating

Possibly. I just got the art 90% sorted for the Ascension Revamp this afternoon (though circumstances with some of it dictate an extra 3-4 days before I can go to the printing company - So likely not this Friday but the following Wednesday in all likelihood). Didn't take long to do. I will be replacing the two Thor illustrations in Ascension but keeping all my other artwork.

Wow, very quickly approaching, you must be very proud.

Quite proud of the other artwork in Ascension - my Orcus illustration was used by a Youtuber in one of their videos about Orcus (Mr Rhexx I think it was) and I was pretty chuffed with that.

Nice! Always good to have your work exalted

I wouldn't (and likely couldn't) do another 3.5E book without you guys helping.

Happy to help however I can

Now that artwork is not a roadblock to progress it might be feasible to knock out a Bestiary Volume 2 and/or 3. Maybe 33% monsters from this forum, 33% new stuff and 34% conversions (from the 100 monsters in the) 5E Immortals Handbook which I can spread across Volumes 2 & 3. But lets not get ahead of ourselves here.

Definitely, one thing at a time, still, the offers open and will remain so.

1. Ascension Print copy (in a week or so).
2. Immortals Handbook 5E (two enormous books when I learn to bend time and space and get them done).
3. We can think about the rest afterwards. 3.5E Bestiary Volume 2 for the 20th Anniversary in 2025 is making me chuckle though.

Yeeeeaaah buddy! Nice to see some new life breathed into this franchise. I love IH and can't wait to see its iteration for 5th ed

 

[Obly99]

I am absolutely interested in the copy but I don't have much financial availability at this time. I'll still take a few days to think about it before confirming for my own copy even though I jumped at the thought of a printed version of the official 3.5 Ascension. T_T

 

[Upper_Krust]

Oh man, I can imagine. That must have been extremely frustrating

You have to take the good with the bad and roll with it amigo.

Wow, very quickly approaching, you must be very proud.

Ascension is 162 pages but might bump it up to 168-176 ish. Have some extra artwork.

Nice! Always good to have your work exalted

Was a nice surprise.

Happy to help however I can

I appreciate it Beefy!

Definitely, one thing at a time, still, the offers open and will remain so.

Yeeeeaaah buddy! Nice to see some new life breathed into this franchise.

What annoys me is that in 1st Ed. the Monster Manuals and Deities & Demigods would have 4 monsters or gods per page. Now, if lucky I can get one epic monster onto 2 pages.

Imagine I do a book that includes the Umbrals...its going to be 30 pages of shadowy blob monsters, whereas in the past you could probably squeeze that into 5-6 pages in 1st Ed.

I love IH and can't wait to see its iteration for 5th ed

Those two books will be amazing...eventually. Just hoping I don't turn it into three books in 2023.

But 5E does appear to be extremely playable at crazy levels* - whereas in contrast I just think 3.5E has WAY too many feats/divine abilities/spells/skills/metamagic and its just going to put typical gamers off...and I know you guys are not typical gamers (neither was I back in my pomp).

*You see a lot of threads where someone says 5E is unplayable at high level, but if you examine what they are saying; 75% of the time its that the monsters are not challenging...mine will be.

 

[Upper_Krust]

I am absolutely interested in the copy but I don't have much financial availability at this time. I'll still take a few days to think about it before confirming for my own copy even though I jumped at the thought of a printed version of the official 3.5 Ascension. T_T

No need Obly99 amigo, I will print an extra copy for you and post it to you and we can sort something out when you are in a better financial situation, no hurry or pressure my friend.

I will happily do the same for any of the regular posters here on these forums.

Edit: Eternity Publishing forums I mean.