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Message: <blockquote data-quote="paradox42" data-source="post: 3217736" data-attributes="member: 29746">Yes, I know. They were always one of the coolest things about the gold-box set for me. Ever since the Epic handbook made it possible to stat up beings as powerful as gods (like the perrennial favorite of reviewers, the Xixecal), I've been determined to one day stat up a 3E version of a Draeden- but I never got something I was satisfied with until UK's IH Bestiary postulated new size rules and gave me neat ideas like "Omnicompetent" (Hey! Now I don't have to figure out how to spend tens of thousands of skill points! Yaay!).I waited for the Divine abilities in Ascension so I could actually make them equivalent to gods, at least in terms of the concept of Divine Rank, which the Immortals rules postulated they were. Since I've had those Divine abilities for some months now, I did get around to completing the Draeden entry in my personal monster book, and it's a whopper. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> CR 41,461, and that's just assuming it's equivalent to a mere Greater Deity (by its HD it could actually be well equivalent to a Time Lord if I wanted to go that high).I do intend to eventually put it up on the d20 NPC Wiki, but I'm waffling on how many alternate versions to make before I do- because an alternate version is necessary before I can properly share it with anyone else. It uses one rather large house rule in my current campaign, see- a new monster type dubbed "Old One." Old Ones are sort of a cross between Dragons, Outsiders, and Aberrations in terms of creature traits- but since they're a new creature type, that means I have to convert the Draeden at least to a standard type before I can share it. And of course, after taking so long to stat it up the first time, the project of making new alternate versions is sort of on the back burner right now.Honestly, one of the primary motivators for me to stat up a Draeden in the first place was so I could have a creature with the size/type line reading "Cyclopean Old One." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I use adjectives for some of the size categories beyond Titanic, see, and Cyclopean happens to correspond to Macro-Titanic (which is what I statted up the "base Draeden" at).</blockquote>

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