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<blockquote data-quote="paradox42" data-source="post: 3592364" data-attributes="member: 29746"><p>[Looks at his newly-acquired print copy of the Bestiary closely]</p><p>...Oh, wow! I didn't notice that several CRs changed until I saw this post. Several didn't- the Neutronium Golem, for example, still shows 9721.</p><p></p><p>But I happen to be using an Odium in my second game right now (specifically, a Bygone Odium using the very helpful template published in <em>Legends of Avadnu</em>), and when I flipped to that page I see its CR has dropped from 42 to 33! So my Bygone one is now only CR 27. Maybe I'll consider dropping the Bygone bit, since the party involved <strong>is</strong> a powerful 20th level (and includes the ECL 22 Prophet character Equinox among others)... but then again, I don't think they have any actual way to kill it right now (since none of them can use Good spells or has a Good-aligned weapon). So perhaps not. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>...I also can't help but notice that the Level Adjustment changed as well; it now says -5. Putting aside for the moment the profound event of seeing a negative number on that line in a D&D publication for the first time ever in my memory, does this mean v6 includes a method to calculate an accurate LA along with the CR? That could be very valuable math indeed for the current version of the game!</p><p></p><p>So, a 50th-level game could have a PC Odium in it. That ought to be a wild and exotic game...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="paradox42, post: 3592364, member: 29746"] [Looks at his newly-acquired print copy of the Bestiary closely] ...Oh, wow! I didn't notice that several CRs changed until I saw this post. Several didn't- the Neutronium Golem, for example, still shows 9721. But I happen to be using an Odium in my second game right now (specifically, a Bygone Odium using the very helpful template published in [i]Legends of Avadnu[/i]), and when I flipped to that page I see its CR has dropped from 42 to 33! So my Bygone one is now only CR 27. Maybe I'll consider dropping the Bygone bit, since the party involved [b]is[/b] a powerful 20th level (and includes the ECL 22 Prophet character Equinox among others)... but then again, I don't think they have any actual way to kill it right now (since none of them can use Good spells or has a Good-aligned weapon). So perhaps not. :D ...I also can't help but notice that the Level Adjustment changed as well; it now says -5. Putting aside for the moment the profound event of seeing a negative number on that line in a D&D publication for the first time ever in my memory, does this mean v6 includes a method to calculate an accurate LA along with the CR? That could be very valuable math indeed for the current version of the game! So, a 50th-level game could have a PC Odium in it. That ought to be a wild and exotic game... [/QUOTE]
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