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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3595891" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hiya mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course now I have to out-do myself for the next one. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dust cover pages, okay.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll be having a word with them, it could have been a problem from my end, but I won't know exactly until I get my own copies in hand.</p><p></p><p>Is the book the same shape as the Players Handbook for instance?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You could be twinned with my local gaming store in Belfast which is the worst game store in the known universe! Try this on for irony...I ordered the Tome of Battle last Summer and I remind them every month...they haven't even given me a pdf with just the text or nothing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are forgetting a few things.</p><p></p><p>1. It could be an automatic ability: Stench, Gaze, Aura, Poison Bite etc.</p><p>2. It could be one of multiple abilities...and you can cast multiple spells.</p><p>3. Sometimes save or die effects will be your best course of attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think there are enough to stipulate the majority will have such abilities - because they definately won't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Those abilities are few and far between.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If that particular ability is the monsters only recourse then it could well be a walk-over, but how often does it come down to that for epic monsters? Not all that often, they usually have a variety of attack methods.</p><p></p><p>I just think you guys are in for a rude awakening over this. Did the Surtur example teach us nothing? Added to which you may as well change the number of artifacts allowed to three and have one in-built Cloak of Resistance - because thats what you are going to need.</p><p></p><p>Not to mention the disparity between Spell DCs and Ability DCs...but heh, I only work here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 3595891, member: 326"] Hiya mate! :) Of course now I have to out-do myself for the next one. ;) Dust cover pages, okay. I'll be having a word with them, it could have been a problem from my end, but I won't know exactly until I get my own copies in hand. Is the book the same shape as the Players Handbook for instance? You could be twinned with my local gaming store in Belfast which is the worst game store in the known universe! Try this on for irony...I ordered the Tome of Battle last Summer and I remind them every month...they haven't even given me a pdf with just the text or nothing. :o You are forgetting a few things. 1. It could be an automatic ability: Stench, Gaze, Aura, Poison Bite etc. 2. It could be one of multiple abilities...and you can cast multiple spells. 3. Sometimes save or die effects will be your best course of attack. I don't think there are enough to stipulate the majority will have such abilities - because they definately won't. Those abilities are few and far between. If that particular ability is the monsters only recourse then it could well be a walk-over, but how often does it come down to that for epic monsters? Not all that often, they usually have a variety of attack methods. I just think you guys are in for a rude awakening over this. Did the Surtur example teach us nothing? Added to which you may as well change the number of artifacts allowed to three and have one in-built Cloak of Resistance - because thats what you are going to need. Not to mention the disparity between Spell DCs and Ability DCs...but heh, I only work here. ;) [/QUOTE]
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