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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3605225" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hiya mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It wasn't a complaint...I love these discussions. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Congratulations. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wasn't overtly disagreeing with you in the first place, even though you are sort of a special case.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its the sort of deep rooted issue that probably needs built into the system from the ground up (ie. in 4th Edition).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unless the melee attack would deal 4%.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is almost exclusively why epic monsters with save inducing special abilities will be able to use other abilities at the same time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When I was playing 1st/2nd Ed. I always wanted an open-ended ability score, save DC mechanic. But now that we have that I do see the problems attached to it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Reminds me of my youth. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't worry, together we CAN kill your PCs. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think there'll be something for everyone...the Drakainai are about Lesser power type powerful, the Gigantes Intermediate type powerful and the Titans are Greater God type powerful.</p><p></p><p>All of the above are scalable to a degree.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, they are based on the dimensions. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I must be missing someone.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, they do seem limited in that department.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Superstring Dragon = Nehaschimic (possibly from a micro-universe).</p><p>Quantum (Superposition) Dragon = Adamic</p><p>Brane Dragon = Nehaschimic (connecting universes?)</p><p>Quark Dragon...I'll have to think about (somewhere between Adamic and Nehaschimic...they are strange like that Quarks). </p><p></p><p>I really like the sound of the Quantum and Brane Dragons...those could be interesting to flesh out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well feel free to have a crack at them. For me to detail such dragons I'd have to first own the books.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think Fieari has one on wikipedia somewhere.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 3605225, member: 326"] Hiya mate! :) It wasn't a complaint...I love these discussions. :p Congratulations. :) I wasn't overtly disagreeing with you in the first place, even though you are sort of a special case. Its the sort of deep rooted issue that probably needs built into the system from the ground up (ie. in 4th Edition). Unless the melee attack would deal 4%. Which is almost exclusively why epic monsters with save inducing special abilities will be able to use other abilities at the same time. When I was playing 1st/2nd Ed. I always wanted an open-ended ability score, save DC mechanic. But now that we have that I do see the problems attached to it. Reminds me of my youth. ;) Don't worry, together we CAN kill your PCs. :lol: I think there'll be something for everyone...the Drakainai are about Lesser power type powerful, the Gigantes Intermediate type powerful and the Titans are Greater God type powerful. All of the above are scalable to a degree. No, they are based on the dimensions. I must be missing someone. Yes, they do seem limited in that department. Superstring Dragon = Nehaschimic (possibly from a micro-universe). Quantum (Superposition) Dragon = Adamic Brane Dragon = Nehaschimic (connecting universes?) Quark Dragon...I'll have to think about (somewhere between Adamic and Nehaschimic...they are strange like that Quarks). I really like the sound of the Quantum and Brane Dragons...those could be interesting to flesh out. :D Well feel free to have a crack at them. For me to detail such dragons I'd have to first own the books. I think Fieari has one on wikipedia somewhere. [/QUOTE]
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