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Message: <blockquote data-quote="paradox42" data-source="post: 3607713" data-attributes="member: 29746">Thank you. Saturday's game was a red-letter one in both of the games, actually.The original Epic game realized that for the first time in months of game time- and years of real time- they literally had no pressing obligations to deal with to Save The World (again). They just had one last duty, that being to bring the artifact they fought the Orichalcum Guardian for back to the god, which they did- and then stayed to witness the fight the god and his buddies had with the Orichalcum Sentinel that the artifact made to challenge them for attunement (he had his divine realm mostly protected with force fields to stop the Nuke that was expected from its destruction, and they gathered behind one for the watching). After that battle they went down when he called them over, for introductions- and among other things witnessed one Demigoddess having a tearful goodbye with her original divine patron because she had just hit Lesser Goddess (surely a momentous event to witness). But with all this divine contact, and nothing left to do for others, they took the opportunity to start seriously pursuing divinity and activating what I've called in game their "divine sparks" (manifested as several of them having the Cryptomnesia feat and all of them having been given Quintessence Points from various adventures). They're all potential Hero-Deities (some could be higher if they met the minimum HD requirements, but they don't) at this point. So, they started what I termed the Quest(s) For Enlightenment and are likely to be pursuing those for a while.The secondary game finally got that Bygone Odium to reveal itself and take the fight to them directly; this took place in two enormous caverns underground, each over a mile across and 1000 feet high, one on top of the other with a ruined city and containing a chasm to the lower one which was where the Odium was holed up. Equinox has access to a reroll ability and used it to save the party's collective hide from a Verdegris Tsunami that the beast essentially "opened" the fight with after the Warlock blasted one of its minions and destroyed what passed for its mind, in full view of the Odium (though the party didn't know exactly where it was at the time). Equinox actually forced the reroll to make the Warlock miss and thus retroactively prevent the response, and then used Temporal Acceleration to Teleport the party back to the top chamber. They then Dominated one of the remaining minion monsters up there, and sent it into the lower cavern to start fighting its fellows, with one of the characters using Clairvoyance to watch for activity. They didn't notice the suspiciously-Venus-flytrap-shaped cloud float by in the winds that mysteriously sprang up, until it was too late (i.e. when the Odium found their upper-cavern position and opened the real fight with a Mass Frog that ended up only getting the Warlock). I could go on, but suffice it to say the fight was most memorable and climactic- and a wonderful way to usher those characters into Epic territory.All in all, a wonderful way to spend 12 hours on a Saturday. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It's nice to be special. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />I'm just looking for story reasons to introduce it at this point- the secondary game really has one already with all the Far Realm interaction they're doing lately (I actually postulated in game that the creature I used the stats of a Bygone Odium for was a godlike intruder from the Far Realm and specifically an enemy of the group's patron, which is also a godlike entity in the Far Realm). All the intrusion of energy and critters From Beyond has got to wreak some havoc with standard multiversal laws eventually, right? Meanwhile, the original Epic game has had some peripheral contact, in Dreams (I capitalize the word when it's a potentially Lucid Dream involving a trip to the Region of Dreams), with a couple of Overgods including Zurvan himself. If one of them decides to change things, the party will know why it hit the entire cosmos at once- they're aware how deeply connected the "Sidereal entities" are to the cosmos at the sub-quantum level.Cheeky! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />Hey, if I wanted to just kill them, it's easy- I just have to toss a Neutronium Golem into the mix, or send a Void Dragon after them- even a Wyrmling would pretty much toast them with no possibility of survival. The challenge here is to continue to challenge them, of course.Well, we'll see what's in there that I can use then. I look forward to it.Ahh. So if I want more Adamic Dragons, I have to come up with more Dimensions! Interesting. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Or perhaps I could come up with Dragons for the intersections of two Dimensions- say, Time and Spirit or Spirit and Fate? But then, I'd really have to see the "existing" six to be sure of getting things right I suppose.That right there is a very interesting notion to me. I may go with that, at least on some level- have you seen the esoteric speculations that our universe may be contained in some "quantum particle" or more likely black hole, in another universe? Maybe the Superstring Dragon is an escapee from such a realm.I don't really like calling that one a Quantum Dragon, but I admit I can't think of a better name yet myself.Edit: I think one idea worth pursuing regarding this beast is that the "superposition particles," if they exist, may be what constitutes the Dark Matter that astronomers and physicists are so diligently searching for these days. So this could be a Dark Matter Dragon.That would sort of be the point, yes. The idea I'm referring to is that M-Theory suggests not only that the most fundamental particles are one-dimensional objects whose vibrations produce the particle properties we know and recognize, but that those one-dimensional objects aren't all that's out there. There are also objects with 2 dimensions, 3 dimensions, and even more, and these are called "branes" (based on the word "membranes" actually). Those who spend their time seriously thinking about this theory have suggested that our universe may, itself, be such a brane, and the fact that it is a brane with only a few dimensions would then explain why we can't see the higher dimensions directly. So our universe-brane is essentially floating around in some higher-dimensional space that constitutes "true reality" in this theory- sound familiar at all?One of the more interesting notions advanced in conjunction with the brane-universe one is that the Big Bang which created all matter and energy in our universe may have resulted from a collision between our universe and another one floating nearby. The scientists who suggested this have also suggested that this may actually be a cycle, with the two branes forever floating close, drifting apart from the titanic energies released in their collisions, but then gradually drifting back together after a few trillion years due to gravitational attraction- and colliding again, to create another Big Bang in each universe and start the cycle all over again.It is in that context that I suggested the idea of a Brane Dragon. It seems to fit well with the Quasar, Black Hole, and Wormhole Dragons, in my view.Well, I'll be thinking about them when I'm not spending time preparing plots for my games. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Not like I don't spend time coming up with monsters and powers/spells I don't reasonably expect to ever see used in game anyway. That was what I did when I came up with the Draeden version I made; a CR 41,000 creature is nothing one actually expects PCs to fight someday.</blockquote>

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