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<blockquote data-quote="Ltheb Silverfrond" data-source="post: 3047374" data-attributes="member: 39867"><p>Hey, heres one of truly omnific proportions - If create big bang is 120th level, then what level spell is needed to create an Akashic Library <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />?</p><p>1000? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> The thing is I hope there are some level and feat requirements to get to certain magnatudes, or the old Epic Spellcasting cheese returns in its new incarnation. My namesake mage could take Divine Inspiration 10 times as a Stage 1 Demiurge. Using it, he takes the "Multifaceted" power to get 6 feats. Thats 60 on-the-fly feats on top of the feats I get from all my class levels/any bonuses from portfolios. A Level 1000 spell doesn't seem too hard. It would take effort, but with the right combinations of feats/divine abilities, getting 2010 Int and a caster level of 2000 doesn't seem hard. (A Little out of my reach <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> but blowing up universes isn't, so I can't comprehend anything more rediculous than two wizards hurling Universes at each other <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p>Heck, Time Lords could do it no problem. Infinite Int, plus maybe some sort of Infinite Casterlevel could let em do it. They would just need the feats at that point.</p><p>But once you get there, then what? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>What I want to know, since I think U_K plans to have a lot of High-tech and divine in grimoire, is at what "Level" does magic meet and/or eclipse divinity? At what point can a spell do what Divine Power, Transcendant/Omnific power, cannot? I think the closest you could get would be to compare a level 1000 time lord, with a level *Insert reduculously large number here (with at least 234 digits)* Wizard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ltheb Silverfrond, post: 3047374, member: 39867"] Hey, heres one of truly omnific proportions - If create big bang is 120th level, then what level spell is needed to create an Akashic Library :)? 1000? :) The thing is I hope there are some level and feat requirements to get to certain magnatudes, or the old Epic Spellcasting cheese returns in its new incarnation. My namesake mage could take Divine Inspiration 10 times as a Stage 1 Demiurge. Using it, he takes the "Multifaceted" power to get 6 feats. Thats 60 on-the-fly feats on top of the feats I get from all my class levels/any bonuses from portfolios. A Level 1000 spell doesn't seem too hard. It would take effort, but with the right combinations of feats/divine abilities, getting 2010 Int and a caster level of 2000 doesn't seem hard. (A Little out of my reach :) but blowing up universes isn't, so I can't comprehend anything more rediculous than two wizards hurling Universes at each other :)) Heck, Time Lords could do it no problem. Infinite Int, plus maybe some sort of Infinite Casterlevel could let em do it. They would just need the feats at that point. But once you get there, then what? :) What I want to know, since I think U_K plans to have a lot of High-tech and divine in grimoire, is at what "Level" does magic meet and/or eclipse divinity? At what point can a spell do what Divine Power, Transcendant/Omnific power, cannot? I think the closest you could get would be to compare a level 1000 time lord, with a level *Insert reduculously large number here (with at least 234 digits)* Wizard. [/QUOTE]
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