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<blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 3316595" data-attributes="member: 4722"><p>Mine. It actually hews closer to the original than yours did. Once I get everything finalized, I'll post it somewhere. I'm pretty close, I think; I have to adjust the progression slightly and recheck the levels and such, because a +11 weapon at L40 is a bit low.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, I see. I didn't think it was coincidence that the armor/weapon bonuses were half the level.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As in, just let give them what they can afford? *nods*</p><p></p><p>I think after 40th you can pretty much toss out the tables anyway - you're getting into dozens of millions of gp, and at that level of power, a simple formula would work better - they can make or afford whatever they want, just about. After 50th there isn't much in the book they can't afford (maybe those ridiculous 8 million gp items), so... yeah.</p><p></p><p>Edit: I think the reason your formula won't work pre-40th level is because the wealth progression doesn't follow any kind of even progression - pre-20th, the numbers are all over the chart, and even post-20th, the wealth increase is wonky - it goes (starting at 22nd) 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 11, 11, 13, 13. </p><p></p><p>With the revised tables I came up with, you can apply a formula (not quite the same one) at ALL levels and have it come reasonably close to what the PCs can actually afford. For instance: at L1-10, armor is level x3, and weapons are level x 3.5 (round up); 10th-40th, it changes to 2.5 and 3; post-40 it decreases again; I tried +30 armor/weapon, and I got 68th level for bonus^2 x 1000 and 84th for bonus^2 x 2000, so I'd apply a straight 2.25 for armor and 2.75 for weapons and just use that from 40th on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kerrick, post: 3316595, member: 4722"] Mine. It actually hews closer to the original than yours did. Once I get everything finalized, I'll post it somewhere. I'm pretty close, I think; I have to adjust the progression slightly and recheck the levels and such, because a +11 weapon at L40 is a bit low. Ah, I see. I didn't think it was coincidence that the armor/weapon bonuses were half the level. As in, just let give them what they can afford? *nods* I think after 40th you can pretty much toss out the tables anyway - you're getting into dozens of millions of gp, and at that level of power, a simple formula would work better - they can make or afford whatever they want, just about. After 50th there isn't much in the book they can't afford (maybe those ridiculous 8 million gp items), so... yeah. Edit: I think the reason your formula won't work pre-40th level is because the wealth progression doesn't follow any kind of even progression - pre-20th, the numbers are all over the chart, and even post-20th, the wealth increase is wonky - it goes (starting at 22nd) 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 9, 9, 11, 11, 13, 13. With the revised tables I came up with, you can apply a formula (not quite the same one) at ALL levels and have it come reasonably close to what the PCs can actually afford. For instance: at L1-10, armor is level x3, and weapons are level x 3.5 (round up); 10th-40th, it changes to 2.5 and 3; post-40 it decreases again; I tried +30 armor/weapon, and I got 68th level for bonus^2 x 1000 and 84th for bonus^2 x 2000, so I'd apply a straight 2.25 for armor and 2.75 for weapons and just use that from 40th on. [/QUOTE]
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