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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 3389874" data-attributes="member: 4722">And at the lower end, you'd have a +1 sword/armor at L2. I know your fomulae are what the numbers reflect, but don't you think these are a bit low?No offense UK, but that's insane - a +11 item at 22nd level? Even if they're limited to 4 epic items, it's still way too low, IMO - you're devaluing epic items.Now there I'll agree. BUT, the merged progression that I put forward eliminates this problem quite nicely and at the same time prevents PCs from having things that are way too powerful for their level - you wouldn't be able to afford a +11 shield until 26th level with the standard wealth, or 28th with my progression (or 30th if you used the standard x10 multiplier).94, actually, but yeah... once you get to extremely high levels, everything tends to blur together. Not much I or anyone else can do about that - it's a fault of the system. Always epic?We can agree on that point - the epic wealth progression (indeed, the entire progression) is totally wonky. Why? There IS no progression. There is no set interval between levels that creates a smooth increase - I think they just made up numbers to keep up with the increasing costs of magic items.But you have to have wealth, to account for things like disposable items and non-epic items, as several people (yourself included) have already pointed out. After 40th level, we all pretty much agree that wealth goes out the window and PCs can take whatever they want, within reason, but before that.... there's got to be something in place. UK's formulae are great for creating NPCs on the spot, or for quick-and-dirty PC creation, but if I were to make something at a level higher than 1st, I'd rather have a set amount of wealth to work with.It is a cool idea, but I think paradox has a point - just extend the normal Brew Potion feat to cover L4-9 spell effects; call L4-6 potions draughts and L7-9 potions elixirs.</blockquote>

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