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<blockquote data-quote="Ltheb Silverfrond" data-source="post: 3760963" data-attributes="member: 39867"><p>As I see it, there are two limits on technology: The Physical Limit, and the Cognitive Limit.</p><p>I define the physical limit as the most advanced, efficient, powerful technology possible within the laws of the universe. Time travel, for instance, may not be possible due to the way the universe is structured, and therefore time travel technology would be beyond the Physical limit.</p><p></p><p>The Cognitive limit is the limit of the understanding and comprehension of technology. I doubt ancient Egyptians would be able to comprehend anything like a computer as anything less than 'Magic', but were able to build simple machines (wedges, pullies, etc) to build the pyramids. The cognitive limit basically whatever a given individual (or culture) defines as "high-technology". 100 years ago, perhaps a very accurate rifle that could shoot over a mile or a method of instantaneous communication around the globe would have seemed impossible or improbable, but we have it today; And what we see today as over the top (flying cars, Time travel, folding space, etc) might be just as common 100 years from now.</p><p></p><p>So where do these 2 come in? Eventually, (barring timelords who can overrule physical limits with their own mental limits) The Cognitive limit of technology will (if it has not already) exceed the physical limit. IE We might think time machines are possible, but in reality they may not be, and thus that technology is comprehendable but never obtainable because it is impossible.</p><p></p><p>Now, while Galactus might have the Physical Limit of technology, he could probably understand technology from beyond our universe, beyond physics. (as an example: metaphysical technology AKA Artifacts) He might not easily be able to reproduce it, but it wouldn't jump out as impossible, simply improbable. Heck, Dr. Doom could probably understand metaphysical technology, at least in principle. Doom probably wouldn't be able to tell a +6 sword from a non-magical sword, but that +6 sword, despite all tests that say they are physically the same, is somehow much sharper than the other, and he could probably accept that. Now, technology vastly beyond metaphysical technology, might be beyond both of their cognitive limits because this hypothetical tier of technology might not conform to rules, or logic, or simply be foreign in the thought processes necessary to perceive it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ltheb Silverfrond, post: 3760963, member: 39867"] As I see it, there are two limits on technology: The Physical Limit, and the Cognitive Limit. I define the physical limit as the most advanced, efficient, powerful technology possible within the laws of the universe. Time travel, for instance, may not be possible due to the way the universe is structured, and therefore time travel technology would be beyond the Physical limit. The Cognitive limit is the limit of the understanding and comprehension of technology. I doubt ancient Egyptians would be able to comprehend anything like a computer as anything less than 'Magic', but were able to build simple machines (wedges, pullies, etc) to build the pyramids. The cognitive limit basically whatever a given individual (or culture) defines as "high-technology". 100 years ago, perhaps a very accurate rifle that could shoot over a mile or a method of instantaneous communication around the globe would have seemed impossible or improbable, but we have it today; And what we see today as over the top (flying cars, Time travel, folding space, etc) might be just as common 100 years from now. So where do these 2 come in? Eventually, (barring timelords who can overrule physical limits with their own mental limits) The Cognitive limit of technology will (if it has not already) exceed the physical limit. IE We might think time machines are possible, but in reality they may not be, and thus that technology is comprehendable but never obtainable because it is impossible. Now, while Galactus might have the Physical Limit of technology, he could probably understand technology from beyond our universe, beyond physics. (as an example: metaphysical technology AKA Artifacts) He might not easily be able to reproduce it, but it wouldn't jump out as impossible, simply improbable. Heck, Dr. Doom could probably understand metaphysical technology, at least in principle. Doom probably wouldn't be able to tell a +6 sword from a non-magical sword, but that +6 sword, despite all tests that say they are physically the same, is somehow much sharper than the other, and he could probably accept that. Now, technology vastly beyond metaphysical technology, might be beyond both of their cognitive limits because this hypothetical tier of technology might not conform to rules, or logic, or simply be foreign in the thought processes necessary to perceive it. [/QUOTE]
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