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<blockquote data-quote="historian" data-source="post: 3761144" data-attributes="member: 13438"><p>I hear you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The fact that it hasn't been constructively replicated by humanity is overwhelming evidence. </p><p></p><p>You believe Reed Richards is capable of understanding all of the nuances of G's tech with some personal instruction from G and presumably a great deal of time. While I disagree, your point concedes that Richards isn't on the level with Galactus tech-wise, despite your contention that he could be. Thus, Reed's tech might somehow rival G's in time.</p><p></p><p>The problem with this is it assumes one tech level (G) is stagnant while another tech level has unlimited potential (Reed).</p><p></p><p>Let's say a guy with a 200 IQ helps a 100 IQ guy get to his "level." If the 100 IQ guy improves then so certainly can the 200 IQ guy. At what point does the 200 IQ guy leave the 100 IQ guy in the dust?</p><p></p><p>As with the foregoing, not only is G's existing tech level beyond Richards and the rest of humanity but his ceiling is much higher as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>G, as a mortal, was from a society that was many technological innovations beyond the technology of Reed's society. Mix that in with primordial universal abilities/consciousness that bear on G's technology and I say it most certainly has a bearing on our abilities to understand his tech.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>That Galactus' abilities and tech are beyond the ken of mortals has not only been stated repeatedly by numerous characters but is a logical presumption that you haven't rebutted.</p><p></p><p>You're shifting the presumption here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>By virtue of these objects </em> Thanos likely was at a higher mental level than Galactus. I completely agree with you.</p><p></p><p>However, without them, he isn't. You don't have to appreciate all of the nuances of an object to effectively wield it. Thanos' understanding and ability to wield both these artifacts improved the longer he was in control of them which clearly indicates a fuller understanding that developed with time.</p><p></p><p>By the way, you aare aware that Galactus has wielded the Infinity Gems in concert aren't you? In fact, he did so after the LT ruled that they couldn't be used in conjuntion.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Again, you don't have to completely understand something to use it. Consider a bank robber with a gun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="historian, post: 3761144, member: 13438"] I hear you. :) The fact that it hasn't been constructively replicated by humanity is overwhelming evidence. You believe Reed Richards is capable of understanding all of the nuances of G's tech with some personal instruction from G and presumably a great deal of time. While I disagree, your point concedes that Richards isn't on the level with Galactus tech-wise, despite your contention that he could be. Thus, Reed's tech might somehow rival G's in time. The problem with this is it assumes one tech level (G) is stagnant while another tech level has unlimited potential (Reed). Let's say a guy with a 200 IQ helps a 100 IQ guy get to his "level." If the 100 IQ guy improves then so certainly can the 200 IQ guy. At what point does the 200 IQ guy leave the 100 IQ guy in the dust? As with the foregoing, not only is G's existing tech level beyond Richards and the rest of humanity but his ceiling is much higher as well. G, as a mortal, was from a society that was many technological innovations beyond the technology of Reed's society. Mix that in with primordial universal abilities/consciousness that bear on G's technology and I say it most certainly has a bearing on our abilities to understand his tech. That Galactus' abilities and tech are beyond the ken of mortals has not only been stated repeatedly by numerous characters but is a logical presumption that you haven't rebutted. You're shifting the presumption here. [I]By virtue of these objects [/I] Thanos likely was at a higher mental level than Galactus. I completely agree with you. However, without them, he isn't. You don't have to appreciate all of the nuances of an object to effectively wield it. Thanos' understanding and ability to wield both these artifacts improved the longer he was in control of them which clearly indicates a fuller understanding that developed with time. By the way, you aare aware that Galactus has wielded the Infinity Gems in concert aren't you? In fact, he did so after the LT ruled that they couldn't be used in conjuntion. Again, you don't have to completely understand something to use it. Consider a bank robber with a gun. [/QUOTE]
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