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<blockquote data-quote="paradox42" data-source="post: 3761369" data-attributes="member: 29746"><p>No more so than the idea of beings from stars multiple light-years away coming to this primitive backwater of the galaxy just to visit. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Whether or not you find the idea of alien visitation valid was not my point; my point was that if one <strong>does</strong> accept that idea- at least beyond saying "no, that's impossible" as so many knee-jerk skeptics do- then you should stop to wonder why these strange visitors do look so suspiciously like humans. The fact of the matter is, space and time are one; we've known that as fact for over half a century and proven it numerous times by ever-more precise experiments. This means that a society capable of visiting places multiple light-years away should also be capable of expanding their reach across an equivalent distance of time, for whatever that's worth. The idea of time-travelers from a far-flung future who barely look human to us is not particularly harder to accept than the notion of crossing that sort of distance in the first place, is it?</p><p></p><p>As an incidental, the quantum mechanical approach to physics is increasingly suggesting that both time and space are actually illusory in the ultimate sense, but that's neither here nor there and I won't delve further into it here except to bring up this reminder quote: "The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we <strong>can</strong> imagine."</p><p></p><p></p><p>How so? All I did was point out that the "grays" looking humanoid is an indicator to their being related to humans somehow, possibly by being distant descendants of modern humanity. Modern humans understand that time is a variable, just as space is; even if we don't know how to actually manipulate the variable and travel across time into the local past, we do have the concept that it is or may be possible to do so. If a "gray" were to explain how this is accomplished, presuming they are indeed distant descendants of ours, how would this be beyond our cognition?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="paradox42, post: 3761369, member: 29746"] No more so than the idea of beings from stars multiple light-years away coming to this primitive backwater of the galaxy just to visit. :) Whether or not you find the idea of alien visitation valid was not my point; my point was that if one [b]does[/b] accept that idea- at least beyond saying "no, that's impossible" as so many knee-jerk skeptics do- then you should stop to wonder why these strange visitors do look so suspiciously like humans. The fact of the matter is, space and time are one; we've known that as fact for over half a century and proven it numerous times by ever-more precise experiments. This means that a society capable of visiting places multiple light-years away should also be capable of expanding their reach across an equivalent distance of time, for whatever that's worth. The idea of time-travelers from a far-flung future who barely look human to us is not particularly harder to accept than the notion of crossing that sort of distance in the first place, is it? As an incidental, the quantum mechanical approach to physics is increasingly suggesting that both time and space are actually illusory in the ultimate sense, but that's neither here nor there and I won't delve further into it here except to bring up this reminder quote: "The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we [b]can[/b] imagine." How so? All I did was point out that the "grays" looking humanoid is an indicator to their being related to humans somehow, possibly by being distant descendants of modern humanity. Modern humans understand that time is a variable, just as space is; even if we don't know how to actually manipulate the variable and travel across time into the local past, we do have the concept that it is or may be possible to do so. If a "gray" were to explain how this is accomplished, presuming they are indeed distant descendants of ours, how would this be beyond our cognition? [/QUOTE]
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