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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 3211757" data-attributes="member: 15538">The benefits and penalties for TWF are... what? I only see penalties and benefits for attacking. Applying TWF penalties to an AoO to me is about the same as giving reach to a monk's forehead if he also attacks with his longspear, since he &quot;has reach.&quot; Other consequences of a character only &quot;wielding&quot; two weapons if he attacks with both with penalties:- Two weapon defense is only helpful if you make a full attack- A character who makes an attack instead of a full round attack will have to use a move action to &quot;wield&quot; his other weapon again. Further, since taking a move action precludes a full round attack, he cannot simply &quot;wield&quot; his weapon the next turn if he attacks again; without TWF, any character who attacks with two weapons must attack, THEN wield again in order to be wielding two weapons again.- For a partial action, the TWF character is either penalized arbitrarily, or else does not suffer the penalties (even though it has been suggested a character who simply attacked with only one weapon would).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 3211757, member: 15538"] The benefits and penalties for TWF are... what? I only see penalties and benefits for attacking. Applying TWF penalties to an AoO to me is about the same as giving reach to a monk's forehead if he also attacks with his longspear, since he "has reach." Other consequences of a character only "wielding" two weapons if he attacks with both with penalties: - Two weapon defense is only helpful if you make a full attack - A character who makes an attack instead of a full round attack will have to use a move action to "wield" his other weapon again. Further, since taking a move action precludes a full round attack, he cannot simply "wield" his weapon the next turn if he attacks again; without TWF, any character who attacks with two weapons must attack, THEN wield again in order to be wielding two weapons again. - For a partial action, the TWF character is either penalized arbitrarily, or else does not suffer the penalties (even though it has been suggested a character who simply attacked with only one weapon would). [/QUOTE]

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