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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3215429" data-attributes="member: 3929">Difference:Longsword and Dagger in hand.Threaten with Longsword.Threaten with Dagger.2 BAB attacks.1 Potential Extra off-hand attack.Option 1:Decide to only attack with the longsword. No TWF penalties. No extra attack with the dagger. You still threaten, are still weilding, and still may take AoO's with either the longsword or the dagger.Option 2:Decide to gain an extra attack with the dagger and incur TWF penalties on all attacks that round. You gain an extra attack with the dagger. You still threaten, are still wielding, and still may take AoO's with either the longsword or the dagger.---Your interpretation means that if the character does not choose to &quot;wield&quot; his dagger, then he no longer threatens with it, nor may he take AoO's with it. This necessitates a distinction between &quot;wielding&quot; and &quot;holding in such a manner that you could if you wanted to, but still arn't wielding&quot;.And please excuse me if I have muddied your position with others'; arguments have gotten somewhat cris-crossed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3215429, member: 3929"] Difference: Longsword and Dagger in hand. Threaten with Longsword. Threaten with Dagger. 2 BAB attacks. 1 Potential Extra off-hand attack. Option 1: Decide to only attack with the longsword. No TWF penalties. No extra attack with the dagger. You still threaten, are still weilding, and still may take AoO's with either the longsword or the dagger. Option 2: Decide to gain an extra attack with the dagger and incur TWF penalties on all attacks that round. You gain an extra attack with the dagger. You still threaten, are still wielding, and still may take AoO's with either the longsword or the dagger. --- Your interpretation means that if the character does not choose to "wield" his dagger, then he no longer threatens with it, nor may he take AoO's with it. This necessitates a distinction between "wielding" and "holding in such a manner that you could if you wanted to, but still arn't wielding". And please excuse me if I have muddied your position with others'; arguments have gotten somewhat cris-crossed. [/QUOTE]

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