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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 3220278" data-attributes="member: 3400">Now who's throwing around straw men? Just because I don't think there is or should be a distinction in the rules between holding and wielding (because enforcing some kind of free action to change that status is unnecessarily complicated), now just by drawing the weapon the PC is clearly threatening the prince.Role playing should be used to determine whether or not the PC is really ready to stab the prince. That and a good sense motive check by the guard.And besides, in your own idea of the rules and holding vs wielding, all it takes is a free action on the PCs turn to go from holding to wielding and there's no way the guards can prevent it. So the situation in the throne room is really moot. By drawing the dagger in the first place, no matter how it is held, by the rules, that prince could be in as much jeopardy whether you make a distinction between holding and wielding... not that the RAW has any such explicit rule in the first place.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 3220278, member: 3400"] Now who's throwing around straw men? Just because I don't think there is or should be a distinction in the rules between holding and wielding (because enforcing some kind of free action to change that status is unnecessarily complicated), now just by drawing the weapon the PC is [i]clearly[/i] threatening the prince. Role playing should be used to determine whether or not the PC is really ready to stab the prince. That and a good sense motive check by the guard. And besides, in your own idea of the rules and holding vs wielding, all it takes is a free action on the PCs turn to go from holding to wielding and there's no way the guards can prevent it. So the situation in the throne room is really moot. By drawing the dagger in the first place, no matter how it is held, by the rules, that prince could be in as much jeopardy whether you make a distinction between holding and wielding... not that the RAW has any such explicit rule in the first place. [/QUOTE]

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