improved unarmed strike on a unicorn...

[brehobit]

(I've asked a similar question here before, but can't find it)...
Consider the normal attacks of a unicorn:
Horn +11 melee (1d8+8) and 2 hooves +3 melee (1d4+2)

Say the unicorn has some class levels that give it a BAB of +10 and it has the improved unarmed strike feat.
#1 Can it use that as part of a full attack including the hooves and horn?
#2 What do the attack bonuses look like if yes?
#3 What would having the multiattack feat change?
#4 Does the unarmed attack, as part of a secondary attack, only get 1/2 STR bonus

My answers:
#1 ?????
#2 if yes to #1 horn +17, 2 hooves +9, 2 unarmed strikes +9/+4
#3 If an unarmed strike is a "natural attack" the hooves and unarmed strikes get +3, otherwise just the hooves do.
#4 No, it gets full.

 

[blargney the second]

1) Yes. The unarmed strikes become the primary attacks, and the natural weapons would be secondary.
2) Assuming Str 20: unarmed +14/+9 melee (1d4+5) and horn +12 melee (1d8+5) and 2 hooves +9 melee (1d4+2)
3) Unarmed +14/+9 melee (1d4+5) and horn +15 melee (1d8+5) and 2 hooves +12 melee (1d4+2)
4) Unarmed attack is primary, so gets full Str to damage. Natural attacks become secondary, so get 1/2 Str to damage.


Edit: fixed the unarmed damage.

 

[Infiniti2000]

2) Assuming Str 20: unarmed +14/+9 melee (1d8+5) and horn +12 melee (1d8+5) and 2 hooves +9 melee (1d4+2)

Not quite. The unarmed attacks for a Large creature are 1d4+str and the horn is secondary, so it is +2 on damage and I'd have to double check the attack, but I don't think you applied it as secondary. You have a similar error on #3. Your #4 actually supports this.

 

[blargney the second]

The horn is a +3 magic weapon. Good call on the unarmed damage though!

(I fixed it in my first reply.)

 

[jaelis]

I play that only monsters that can wield manufactured weapons are capable of making unarmed strikes. Otherwise IUS becomes a stunningly good feat for creatures like dragons.

 

[brehobit]

I play that only monsters that can wield manufactured weapons are capable of making unarmed strikes. Otherwise IUS becomes a stunningly good feat for creatures like dragons.

Yeah, I thought about that. One level of battle dancer is a scary thing for a unicorn...
(Add Chr to AC, get IUS, +1 BAB)
Mark

 

[brehobit]

Not quite. The unarmed attacks for a Large creature are 1d4+str and the horn is secondary, so it is +2 on damage and I'd have to double check the attack, but I don't think you applied it as secondary. You have a similar error on #3. Your #4 actually supports this.

Yeah, and with the battle dancer the unarmed damage is d8 for a large creature....

Mark