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"in 1st Edition...every DM...assumed that Corellon Larethian put out Gruumsh's eye"?
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<blockquote data-quote="Anti-Sean" data-source="post: 3977135" data-attributes="member: 11797"><p>As a 1st Ed player, weapon speeds and variable weapon bonuses vs. different types of armor would have been news to me, since we didn't use those rules. We also played in a homebrew settiing with its own pantheon, so Gruumsh's backstory, as applicable to our game, would have been news to me as well.</p><p></p><p>When I played 1st edition nearly twenty years ago, I may have remembered Gruumsh as having only one eye (although I have to admit that I payed a bit more attention to Loviatar and Bast's entries in D&DG than to Gruumsh's). Thanks to the mists of time, reading updated rulesets that changed the mythology, and running/playing in settings that don't use the default pantheons, I misremembered Gruumsh as well, and I doubt I'm the only one to have done so.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Emphasis mine.</p><p></p><p>That statement, as fully quoted in your post, includes the qualifier 'just about'; it also specifically applies to the campaigns those DMs ran, not the beliefs of the DMs themselves. It is far less of a generalization than you make it out to be. That statement, as reflected in the title of this thread where you edited out said qualifiers, might be the 'window' or implication' you claim it to be; that statement as fully quoted, however, is not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anti-Sean, post: 3977135, member: 11797"] As a 1st Ed player, weapon speeds and variable weapon bonuses vs. different types of armor would have been news to me, since we didn't use those rules. We also played in a homebrew settiing with its own pantheon, so Gruumsh's backstory, as applicable to our game, would have been news to me as well. When I played 1st edition nearly twenty years ago, I may have remembered Gruumsh as having only one eye (although I have to admit that I payed a bit more attention to Loviatar and Bast's entries in D&DG than to Gruumsh's). Thanks to the mists of time, reading updated rulesets that changed the mythology, and running/playing in settings that don't use the default pantheons, I misremembered Gruumsh as well, and I doubt I'm the only one to have done so. Emphasis mine. That statement, as fully quoted in your post, includes the qualifier 'just about'; it also specifically applies to the campaigns those DMs ran, not the beliefs of the DMs themselves. It is far less of a generalization than you make it out to be. That statement, as reflected in the title of this thread where you edited out said qualifiers, might be the 'window' or implication' you claim it to be; that statement as fully quoted, however, is not. [/QUOTE]
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