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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark Hope" data-source="post: 3977538" data-attributes="member: 27051">Thanks for that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.  I actually went and dug out my book so I could post a reference to the thread.  Needn't have bothered, heh.  Anyway, interesting to see that the story doesn't really appear in 2e either!  Although, the phrase that Gruumsh lost "an" eye to Corellon does imply that the author of Monster Mythology saw him as once having had more than one, I suppose (his single eye is still a cyclopean one, though.)  Intriguing.  And, as pointed out above, by the time we get to 3e's D&DG, the story has become just that: Gruumsh lost his left eye to Corellon.I don't think that the chap from WotC was deliberately trying to mangle or misrepresent lore from earlier editions, though.  While I do think that there has been some cavalier disregard for prior edition lore from the 4e team, I don't think that this that kind of thing.  Just some honest forgetfullness.(However... I did note that Monster Mythology deliberately and wantonly changed the elven origin story!  Elves were no longer derived from the blood that Corellon shed when banishing demons like Lolth from the Upperworld.  Noooo, according to Monster Mythology, they were born from blood that Corellon shed in battle with Gruumsh.  This wild and unfounded retcon has ruined all my memories of the many 2e games I played and I now see that they were stupid, uncool and not at all fun in the least.  Whatever else can be said about this topic, I am grateful that it brought this awful, awful misconception on my part to light...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />)</blockquote>

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