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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 3978613" data-attributes="member: 23977">Here's my question though... Is his statement incorrect simply because the actual text says otherwise?What I mean is, although it says he missed did most 1e gamers assume that was just the orc's version? And that he actually hit despite what the book said?He's talking about a shared idea, not necessarily what was written on the paper. There are a lot of things that happen like that.Like the old saying: "Play it again Sam..." It's a common quote used in reference to the Movie Casablanca yet never once did Bogart actually say those words... (He said play it Sam, and Again Sam, but never "Play it again Sam..."So even though the story was that he missed, did most gamers just decide he hit?Maybe thats how they decided to make it the 2e myth... It was already what most gamers had decided so why not make it the truth?Or perhaps you're attributing too much of a motive to someone that isn't there?I think really the important thing was the idea of what he was saying, and not the actual text.The idea was that everyone had a shared experience despite what campaign world they ran. The idea was the important part, and not the specific location that it happened.To me, the idea is to make the game as a whole more 1e like... Instead of having multiple types of D&D, perhaps they're trying to bring us all back together, as players of D&D.</blockquote>