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[Mathew_Freeman]

Good mooooooo-rning, Hive.

 

[Phaezen]

Good mooooooo-rning, Hive.

Afternoon here.

Possible the hive shuld work off one of the proposed internet times to avoid such confusion?

Phaezen

 

[Blackrat]

Afternoon here.

Possible the hive shuld work off one of the proposed internet times to avoid such confusion?

Phaezen

What's the fun in that? We all know that we live in different zones anyways, so it's just fun to say good night knowing that someone has only just woken

 

[Phaezen]

What's the fun in that? We all know that we live in different zones anyways, so it's just fun to say good night knowing that someone has only just woken

The Rat has a point

Now for some pointless info

Contrary to popular belief, there are not 24 timezones but 40, stretching from UTC -12 to UTC +14

Here is a full list:
List of time zones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Phaezen

 

[Mathew_Freeman]

What's the fun in that? We all know that we live in different zones anyways, so it's just fun to say good night knowing that someone has only just woken

Darn tootin'.

I love the fact we're all living in different time zones. After all, it's the best way for the Hive to work, people logging on and off at different times.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Everyone was really excited about Pathfinder and some of the changes that it was bringing to the game, and we even did a couple of alpha test games. For a little while, it looked like Pathfinder was going to be the "new version" of D&D that everyone would be talking about and pushing me to switch to.

I know, right? But as far as I can tell, everyone is more or less level-headed.

As I was saying, it looked like Pathfinder was the clear favorite in our gaming group. Then 4E came along, and everyone started talking about it instead. So we did a couple of test games of THAT as well.

The first one ended with everyone ditching my game to go play Diablo2 instead on my LAN.

The second one ended with an argument over healing surges and daily powers, and confusion over their number of use restrictions. Batman was mentioned.

The third one ended in another argument, but I forget what started it or what it entailed. By the time the dust settled, one of my players (the guy who most wants to play 4E) and his wife had stormed out and took the 4E books with them.

Tonight, the argument started when someone at the table, frustrated over the new way of doing things, muttered "why can't we play the old game instead?" to the 4E Guy. And let me tell you, THE GLOVES CAME OFF. Shouts about resistance to change, ignorance with regard to math, and whether or not someone would "know a good game if it bit him on the ass," were all uttered back and forth. Again he stormed out, taking his books with him. I just sat there, dazed.

Which I think means my opponents had combat advantage and I couldn't flank. Or that I couldn't take any actions? Anyway, both are accurate.

I think the problem is purely edition-related; he wants so badly to play in a 4E game but nobody else does. So he gets more and more frustrated. I don't think it is personal, and I don't think he has anger-management issues or anything like that...he just wants to play a game that nobody likes, and he is very insistent. (He does have a bit of a "I will show you...I will show you ALL" demeanor with regard to 4E, though.)

Yes. It would suck to be in his position. But also to be in yours.
So I guess: Haha!
CleverNickName

Me

I wouldn't know how to resolve this except hoping he either "gives up" on 4E and can still enjoy 3E or Pathfinder (or whatever else you'll choose), or he leaves. The latter probably not a favorite solution. One could or should try talking about it, preferably not during the game.

Oh, and I agree with your worries about posting this experience on the General RPG Forums. Which is very unfortunate, because it is something that "normally" fits right in there and one should hope for a more reasonable answer.

Of course, my official Edition War sanctioned opinion is: You're wrong, he's right, and you will see that soon enough, if you just take advice given by 4E players and DMs.

EDIT: Here you go.

 

[Phaezen]

Of course, my official Edition War sanctioned opinion is: You're wrong, he's right, and you will see that soon enough, if you just take advice given by 4E players and DMs.

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[Mathew_Freeman]

Yes. It would suck to be in his position. But also to be in yours.
So I guess: Haha!
CleverNickName

Me

I wouldn't know how to resolve this except hoping he either "gives up" on 4E and can still enjoy 3E or Pathfinder (or whatever else you'll choose), or he leaves. The latter probably not a favorite solution. One could or should try talking about it, preferably not during the game.

Oh, and I agree with your worries about posting this experience on the General RPG Forums. Which is very unfortunate, because it is something that "normally" fits right in there and one should hope for a more reasonable answer.

It's certainly an unpleasant position to be in, I agree. Probably best to avoid Gen Dis on it, though, given your concerns.

I've been very lucky in that I've not had any serious problems with my 4e games so far, but I'm sure it'll happen sooner or later and when it does I may have to bring it here for advice.

 

[Ginnel]

Its an old phrase. Most likely American in origin.

Can't be that old if its American then can it *low blow*

 

[hafrogman]

No they're not. It's darkest somewhere around midnight. Then it starts to get slowly brighter.

They are, however, coldest just before dawn. Which is what the phrase is getting at. Because they mean 'Things are the worst just before they start getting better." Which is of course immediately obvious to anyone who's ever taken calculus. I guess that wouldn't be an as poetic way of saying it. And why pass up an opportunity for passive racism? Dark = bad!!!!

I prefer the "green stuff". It holds better. Unless you have that stuff I have for mini glue. I don't even know what that stuff is, but it's nasty. And it glues even the metal minis so hard I can't break them off.

Hmm? I gotta find some of that stuff. I tried super glue for my one foray into metal models. My arm fell off after a few months. Very embarrassing while trying to fight a dragon one-armed and weaponless.

Heh. I can't check that list after I've minimalized it..

Yeah, that's odd. Me, too. It tells me that if I were a community supporter I could delete this side column. Of course, I am. . . and the minimize-y bars that were there yesterday are gone.

A human rib? Yuck.

Actually, by all accounts, quite tasty. Tastes like pork. Long pork, they call us. Mmmmm.

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What?

(I thought I would post this rant here, lest my sentiments spark another edition war. At least here in the sanctity of the Hive, I can express my disappointment without being judged. Thanks for listening.)

How dare you come in here and suggest that ANYONE wouldn't love 4e?!?! Heathan! Defiler! Blasphe. . . oh, wait. I really don't care. I wonder, is it really that the hive is so much more accepting than the rest of the board, or can we just not muster the energy to give a rat's ass (No offense, BR).

Sea Kittens!

PETA // Save the Sea Kittens

PETA is odd sometimes

Dang, not nearly enough naked chicks through that link.

Contrary to popular belief, there are not 24 timezones but 40, stretching from UTC -12 to UTC +14

Yeah, but there's not 40 actual times it can be, a lot of those just overlap one zone or another as the year goes by. Gotta be proud of Arizona. No DLS. And then the reservations, which are technically sovereign entities. . ."the Navajo Nation does observe DST, but the Hopi Reservation, an enclave within it, does not observe DST"

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and it's not actually mine.