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<blockquote data-quote="Kafkonia" data-source="post: 3388486" data-attributes="member: 40261">I'm confused, is this a Gestalt game? If so, consider the Cloistered Cleric class as one of your two classes. It's a better choice than regular Cleric as long as you gestalt them with a character with d8 or better HD, medium or better BAB, and some weapon familiarity -- those are the only penalties that the Clositered Cleric has compared to a regular one.In fact, you might like this as a gestalt:Cloistered Cleric/Battle SorcererTake the Stalwart Sorcerer alternate class ability (from Complete Mage). This, combined with Battle Sorcerer, gives you d8+2 hit points per level (which averages the same as a d12 hit die), weapon focus with one martial weapon, and a few other bonuses. You lose a few spells due to being a Battle Sorcerer, but the way that Stalwart Sorcerer is worded you don't actually lose much of anything from it (since it says your spells can't be dropped below 1, which is what you'll have as a Battle Sorcerer anyway.)This gives you 3 domains (one of which must be Knowledge), good hit points, a medium BAB, divine and arcane spellcasting abilities, and decent combat abilities. If you're a human, you can take Medium Armour Proficiency and Battlecaster at first level and be able to cast arcane spells in medium armour too.I haven't tried it myself, and my books are at home, but I'm pretty sure that'd be a fairly potent combination.ETA: Heck, at 10th level, don't forget goodies like Divine Metamagic!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kafkonia, post: 3388486, member: 40261"] I'm confused, is this a Gestalt game? If so, consider the Cloistered Cleric class as one of your two classes. It's a better choice than regular Cleric as long as you gestalt them with a character with d8 or better HD, medium or better BAB, and some weapon familiarity -- those are the only penalties that the Clositered Cleric has compared to a regular one. In fact, you might like this as a gestalt: Cloistered Cleric/Battle Sorcerer Take the Stalwart Sorcerer alternate class ability (from Complete Mage). This, combined with Battle Sorcerer, gives you d8+2 hit points per level (which averages the same as a d12 hit die), weapon focus with one martial weapon, and a few other bonuses. You lose a few spells due to being a Battle Sorcerer, but the way that Stalwart Sorcerer is worded you don't actually lose much of anything from it (since it says your spells can't be dropped below 1, which is what you'll have as a Battle Sorcerer anyway.) This gives you 3 domains (one of which must be Knowledge), good hit points, a medium BAB, divine and arcane spellcasting abilities, and decent combat abilities. If you're a human, you can take Medium Armour Proficiency and Battlecaster at first level and be able to cast arcane spells in medium armour too. I haven't tried it myself, and my books are at home, but I'm pretty sure that'd be a fairly potent combination. ETA: Heck, at 10th level, don't forget goodies like Divine Metamagic! [/QUOTE]

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