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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9252577" data-attributes="member: 6779310"><p>You don't want to rely upon it for your primary, as it's fairly heavy (tho' historical style rawhide over willow or rawhide over laminated wood are not as heavy as most people envisage), but as your backup? It's a lethal weapon. Keep in mind that it usually has 3 pointy bits (tho' horsemen often have the base point rounded)... and that when used with force can do considerable blunt force damage. SO much so that the SCA prohibits any shield techniques that bring it into contact with foes.. But that mace has about twice the reach; the longsword even more. And the rapiers ran up to 6' overall... as did sweihanders and the 2h claidhmohrs. </p><p></p><p>The durability of the shield is largely due to the construction methods - </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">hideglued laminated wood (generally 3-4 layers, split, steamed, glued and pressed), often covered in rawhide or leather. Thickness generally under 1", some down to 3/8" from what I've read. The use of steamed split-wood instead of cut wood provides pretty good strength. Friends have tested this… to destruction.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">wicker frames with steamed bent-wood rim and covered in rawhide, sometimes with a brass or bronze rim</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">bronze structural rim with wicker face, covered in rawhide or painted leather.</li> </ul><p>They typically aren't metal, nor solid wood planking. I've a plywood 12" targe I use; there are so many times I see openings for it that I cannot take for safety of my opponent. It's 3/4" plywood, covered in 8oz glove leather, using leather straps. It's still useful defensively as an active defense, and I can often see chances that I cannot take due to safety rules. Note that it's taken no appreciable damage in 10 years of use, without a metal rim.</p><p></p><p>The historically standard attacks with a shield include </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">aggressively hitting the parrying shieldarm of the foe after they target you.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Stabbing their thigh with the base point.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hitting the face with the dexter-chief point.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Parry the arm, instead of the weapon. Especially if no gauntlets nor vambraces</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Shove shield to shield, especially if you can trap their weapon in so doing, while striking with your primary over their shield</li> </ul><p>They are mostly attacks taken because an opening appears... and only the shield to shield isn't banned by most groups doing historical European martial arts, due to the risks they definitely pose to one's opponents.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 9252577, member: 6779310"] You don't want to rely upon it for your primary, as it's fairly heavy (tho' historical style rawhide over willow or rawhide over laminated wood are not as heavy as most people envisage), but as your backup? It's a lethal weapon. Keep in mind that it usually has 3 pointy bits (tho' horsemen often have the base point rounded)... and that when used with force can do considerable blunt force damage. SO much so that the SCA prohibits any shield techniques that bring it into contact with foes.. But that mace has about twice the reach; the longsword even more. And the rapiers ran up to 6' overall... as did sweihanders and the 2h claidhmohrs. The durability of the shield is largely due to the construction methods - [LIST] [*]hideglued laminated wood (generally 3-4 layers, split, steamed, glued and pressed), often covered in rawhide or leather. Thickness generally under 1", some down to 3/8" from what I've read. The use of steamed split-wood instead of cut wood provides pretty good strength. Friends have tested this… to destruction. [*]wicker frames with steamed bent-wood rim and covered in rawhide, sometimes with a brass or bronze rim [*]bronze structural rim with wicker face, covered in rawhide or painted leather. [/LIST] They typically aren't metal, nor solid wood planking. I've a plywood 12" targe I use; there are so many times I see openings for it that I cannot take for safety of my opponent. It's 3/4" plywood, covered in 8oz glove leather, using leather straps. It's still useful defensively as an active defense, and I can often see chances that I cannot take due to safety rules. Note that it's taken no appreciable damage in 10 years of use, without a metal rim. The historically standard attacks with a shield include [LIST] [*]aggressively hitting the parrying shieldarm of the foe after they target you. [*]Stabbing their thigh with the base point. [*]Hitting the face with the dexter-chief point. [*]Parry the arm, instead of the weapon. Especially if no gauntlets nor vambraces [*]Shove shield to shield, especially if you can trap their weapon in so doing, while striking with your primary over their shield [/LIST] They are mostly attacks taken because an opening appears... and only the shield to shield isn't banned by most groups doing historical European martial arts, due to the risks they definitely pose to one's opponents. [/QUOTE]
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