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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6394920" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>Not only did I read and actually you know talk to some of the authors who were involved but I read the original post as well. And as I said there was a lot of outrage on both sides. And way to go characterizing the women who spoke up as harpies you do know that male authors spoke up as well? I did read Mike Resnick daughter comments and as I said and I will keep saying that a lot was said on both sides that shouldn't have been said. The article brought out a lot of hidden resentment that many female SF writers and editors had been feeling for a very long time. But feel free to dismiss their views as just being harpies. </p><p></p><p>I don't recall anyone saying you were sexist for your views on dragonboobs I really think you are reaching here. </p><p></p><p>And again what point don't you get that there is a difference between Beyonce choosing to show her sexuality under her terms and it being forced on her? To put it in gaming terms it is one thing for a female gamer to choose to portray her PC as using her sexuality to further her goals to say her PC dresses in skimpy clothes and having the game only show female PCs like that.</p><p></p><p>I will tell you when feminism is no longer relevant when we don't have the high rates of sexual assault in our military and college campuses. When we don't use terms like harpies to describe women speaking out. When we spend as much time teaching young men not to rape as we do in teaching young girls how to avoid it. When we no longer feel the need to treat female gamers as some how different than male gamers. When the fake geek girl meme dies in the fire that it deserves too. When female cosplayers don't have to face slut shaming and disgusting comments directed at them by mouth breathers who really need to grow up and how about when we no longer need to say cosplaying does not equal consent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 6394920, member: 9037"] Not only did I read and actually you know talk to some of the authors who were involved but I read the original post as well. And as I said there was a lot of outrage on both sides. And way to go characterizing the women who spoke up as harpies you do know that male authors spoke up as well? I did read Mike Resnick daughter comments and as I said and I will keep saying that a lot was said on both sides that shouldn't have been said. The article brought out a lot of hidden resentment that many female SF writers and editors had been feeling for a very long time. But feel free to dismiss their views as just being harpies. I don't recall anyone saying you were sexist for your views on dragonboobs I really think you are reaching here. And again what point don't you get that there is a difference between Beyonce choosing to show her sexuality under her terms and it being forced on her? To put it in gaming terms it is one thing for a female gamer to choose to portray her PC as using her sexuality to further her goals to say her PC dresses in skimpy clothes and having the game only show female PCs like that. I will tell you when feminism is no longer relevant when we don't have the high rates of sexual assault in our military and college campuses. When we don't use terms like harpies to describe women speaking out. When we spend as much time teaching young men not to rape as we do in teaching young girls how to avoid it. When we no longer feel the need to treat female gamers as some how different than male gamers. When the fake geek girl meme dies in the fire that it deserves too. When female cosplayers don't have to face slut shaming and disgusting comments directed at them by mouth breathers who really need to grow up and how about when we no longer need to say cosplaying does not equal consent. [/QUOTE]
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