Incorporeal creature + magical burst of wind

[Question]

Is an incorporeal creature still subjected to a burst of magical wind? So it could still be flung away, etc?

 

[frankthedm]

Not unless the spell says it does. Incorps have no matter whatsoever for the wind to push against.

An incorporeal creature’s attacks pass through (ignore) natural armor, armor, and shields, although deflection bonuses and force effects (such as mage armor) work normally against it. Incorporeal creatures pass through and operate in water as easily as they do in air. Incorporeal creatures cannot fall or take falling damage. Incorporeal creatures cannot make trip or grapple attacks, nor can they be tripped or grappled. In fact, they cannot take any physical action that would move or manipulate an opponent or its equipment, nor are they subject to such actions. Incorporeal creatures have no weight and do not set off traps that are triggered by weight.

A magic spell that made a damaging blade of air would have the 50% chance to effect them though.

 

[Nail]

Not the last word.....yet.

A nice rules quote, frankthedm, but remember that the spell Gust of Wind (I'm assuming that is what question is refering to) is not a physical action. It's a spell effect.

....And it's an Evocation spell, rather than a conjuration (which arguably might make a physical object).

The relevant RAW is actually:

An incorporeal creature has no physical body. It can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, magic weapons or creatures that strike as magic weapons, and spells, spell-like abilities, or supernatural abilities. It is immune to all nonmagical attack forms. Even when hit by spells or magic weapons, it has a 50% chance to ignore any damage from a corporeal source (except for positive energy, negative energy, force effects such as magic missile, or attacks made with ghost touch weapons).

Since Gust of Wind does no damage, the incorporeal creature doesn't even have the 50% chance of avoiding it.

 

[Question]

What about the argument that it is a magical burst of wind and can be affected as such "It can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, magic weapons or creatures that strike as magic weapons, and spells, spell-like abilities, or supernatural abilities. " ?

Spell in question : Control Winds

 

[Nail]

What about the argument that it is a magical burst of wind and can be affected as such "It can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, magic weapons or creatures that strike as magic weapons, and spells, spell-like abilities, or supernatural abilities. " ?

That's EXACTLY my point!

Spell in question : Control Winds

Now you're in murkier waters. As a transmutation spell, the spell effect alters an existing physical force.