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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 6270248" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p><strong>Pricing</strong></p><p></p><p><em>Back when I was a kid, gosh darn it, Cokes were a nickel and D&D books were only $20! I had to walk to the gaming store uphill through the snow BOTH WAYS! How dare these young flippertygidgets at WotC charge $50 for a full-color, hardbound gaming book when everyone else in the industry is doing the same because, <em>supposedly</em>, there's this new-fangled thing called "inflation"! I hear somebody saying that these WotC folks are a business and out to make some money from my hard-working self! That's just not right! Back in the day, D&D was run by a charitable organization that had gamers in mind, not profits! Why, they practically gave away the first run of 3E player's handbooks, because they <em>cared</em>! Today, they're just out to get our money, and the game probably sucks too, because there are minor rules changes that don't mesh with my personal play style and I'm too old and set in my ways to try things differently!</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><strong>The above is hyperbolic satire, just in case anyone's not sure.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Personally, I'm not happy with pricing increases in anything that I buy, but I understand that inflation happens, and it hits some industries harder than others. In addition to being a D&D fan, I also play Warhammer 40K, and the whining about prices (and rules, and other things) is almost identical on forums for fans of both games. Quality full-color hardback books at $50 is currently a fair price. There are smaller companies that produce books with cheaper MSRPs, but often with black-and-white interiors, cheaper paper, cheaper bindings, or all three. WotC (like Games Workshop) is a large company selling the world's most famous and popular RPG to a mass audience, and they are opting for quality books (quality paper, bindings, and full-color). They could make the decision to offer the PHB at a cheaper "loss-leader" price, but with the fact that gamers and other curious folks buy up the PHB in droves regardless of price point, why should they take that hit, as it probably won't affect sales numbers?</p><p></p><p>And, we don't know what price point WotC will offer a digital version of the core books at, or even if they will offer digital versions right away. We also don't know if WotC will offer a cheaper PHB down the road (or how far down the road) that might be paperback, black-and-white, or have the page count trimmed. They have done both before, we'll have to wait and see.</p><p></p><p>A probable $150 for the core three books is certainly a lot of money, and I will probably not be able to simply walk down to the FLGS and purchase the three core books all at once. But I'm not going to complain, I'll just budget and sigh.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 6270248, member: 18182"] [b]Pricing[/b] [I]Back when I was a kid, gosh darn it, Cokes were a nickel and D&D books were only $20! I had to walk to the gaming store uphill through the snow BOTH WAYS! How dare these young flippertygidgets at WotC charge $50 for a full-color, hardbound gaming book when everyone else in the industry is doing the same because, [I]supposedly[/I], there's this new-fangled thing called "inflation"! I hear somebody saying that these WotC folks are a business and out to make some money from my hard-working self! That's just not right! Back in the day, D&D was run by a charitable organization that had gamers in mind, not profits! Why, they practically gave away the first run of 3E player's handbooks, because they [I]cared[/I]! Today, they're just out to get our money, and the game probably sucks too, because there are minor rules changes that don't mesh with my personal play style and I'm too old and set in my ways to try things differently! [/I] [B]The above is hyperbolic satire, just in case anyone's not sure. [/B] Personally, I'm not happy with pricing increases in anything that I buy, but I understand that inflation happens, and it hits some industries harder than others. In addition to being a D&D fan, I also play Warhammer 40K, and the whining about prices (and rules, and other things) is almost identical on forums for fans of both games. Quality full-color hardback books at $50 is currently a fair price. There are smaller companies that produce books with cheaper MSRPs, but often with black-and-white interiors, cheaper paper, cheaper bindings, or all three. WotC (like Games Workshop) is a large company selling the world's most famous and popular RPG to a mass audience, and they are opting for quality books (quality paper, bindings, and full-color). They could make the decision to offer the PHB at a cheaper "loss-leader" price, but with the fact that gamers and other curious folks buy up the PHB in droves regardless of price point, why should they take that hit, as it probably won't affect sales numbers? And, we don't know what price point WotC will offer a digital version of the core books at, or even if they will offer digital versions right away. We also don't know if WotC will offer a cheaper PHB down the road (or how far down the road) that might be paperback, black-and-white, or have the page count trimmed. They have done both before, we'll have to wait and see. A probable $150 for the core three books is certainly a lot of money, and I will probably not be able to simply walk down to the FLGS and purchase the three core books all at once. But I'm not going to complain, I'll just budget and sigh. [/QUOTE]
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