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<blockquote data-quote="DMZ2112" data-source="post: 6271081" data-attributes="member: 78752"><p>All right, this one's a little incendiary. I apologize up front.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally, I spend the money on the book even though the same rules are available online for free because I'm not a dick. Not that anyone else is a dick, necessarily. That's just why I buy the book. Because I'm not a dick. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because they like to eat, Mistwell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On what do you base this theory? The hypothesis that novice gamers don't have $50 to spend? I assume we are talking about children here, as that is the only justification I can think of for such a hypothesis. That being the case, I know of /many/ people born in the 21st century with XBox Ones and Playstation 4s, and plenty of games to play on them. The $50 price tag is no obstacle to children.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think they recognize that FLGSes grow the hobby. Keep in mind the D&D folks sit down the hall from the Magic: the Gathering folks -- I'm not sure you can work in such close proximity to a ludicrous success story like M:TG and not understand the value of the FLGS.</p><p></p><p>That said, if D&D has to choose between its own survival and the survival of the brick-and-mortars, it's going to pick its own survival every time -- and the FLGSes get left holding the bag (or in this case the confusing, conflicting product lines and cases upon cases of Fortune Cards).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, what the internet echo chamber needs to realize is that most fantasy RPG fans out there have enjoyed every iteration of D&D they've played, to a greater or lesser extent, even if it ultimately wasn't really their thing, and upgrade to the new version when it comes out because it is "the new rules." D&D5 may fail by Hasbro's or even Wizards' fiscal yardstick, but it is still going to outsell every 13th Age, OSR, Savage Worlds, and FATE product -- <em>combined</em>. And if I were feeling cocky, I'd add World of Darkness and Shadowrun to that list, as well.</p><p></p><p>Wizards of the Coast does not live or die by the community -- the community lives or dies by Wizards of the Coast. That might be less true now that Paizo has had such runaway success, but don't make the mistake of assuming that Wizards cares that some folks disapprove of what they've been doing. Behind those grumblers are ten fold more people who would be shouting "shut up and take my money" if they knew about that meme, but they don't, because they're not part of the internet echo chamber.</p><p></p><p>And even if that were not the case, <em>$50 is not an unreasonable price for this product on the free market.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DMZ2112, post: 6271081, member: 78752"] All right, this one's a little incendiary. I apologize up front. Personally, I spend the money on the book even though the same rules are available online for free because I'm not a dick. Not that anyone else is a dick, necessarily. That's just why I buy the book. Because I'm not a dick. Because they like to eat, Mistwell. On what do you base this theory? The hypothesis that novice gamers don't have $50 to spend? I assume we are talking about children here, as that is the only justification I can think of for such a hypothesis. That being the case, I know of /many/ people born in the 21st century with XBox Ones and Playstation 4s, and plenty of games to play on them. The $50 price tag is no obstacle to children. I think they recognize that FLGSes grow the hobby. Keep in mind the D&D folks sit down the hall from the Magic: the Gathering folks -- I'm not sure you can work in such close proximity to a ludicrous success story like M:TG and not understand the value of the FLGS. That said, if D&D has to choose between its own survival and the survival of the brick-and-mortars, it's going to pick its own survival every time -- and the FLGSes get left holding the bag (or in this case the confusing, conflicting product lines and cases upon cases of Fortune Cards). No, what the internet echo chamber needs to realize is that most fantasy RPG fans out there have enjoyed every iteration of D&D they've played, to a greater or lesser extent, even if it ultimately wasn't really their thing, and upgrade to the new version when it comes out because it is "the new rules." D&D5 may fail by Hasbro's or even Wizards' fiscal yardstick, but it is still going to outsell every 13th Age, OSR, Savage Worlds, and FATE product -- [I]combined[/I]. And if I were feeling cocky, I'd add World of Darkness and Shadowrun to that list, as well. Wizards of the Coast does not live or die by the community -- the community lives or dies by Wizards of the Coast. That might be less true now that Paizo has had such runaway success, but don't make the mistake of assuming that Wizards cares that some folks disapprove of what they've been doing. Behind those grumblers are ten fold more people who would be shouting "shut up and take my money" if they knew about that meme, but they don't, because they're not part of the internet echo chamber. And even if that were not the case, [I]$50 is not an unreasonable price for this product on the free market.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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