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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6271327" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>That and "Funded by Kickstarter".</p><p></p><p>I must admit, KS has surprised me a great deal. I expected it to be HUGE for a while and then hit a brick wall, hard. But the backlash doesn't seem to have happened (much). Instead, things seem to have settled into the "third phase" pretty smoothly - people have become much more choosy when backing projects, which means the success rate has probably gone up, which makes a widespread rejection at this stage unlikely.</p><p></p><p>So, I guess I was wrong about Kickstarter. Shocking!</p><p></p><p>That said... one consequence of that "third phase" is the projects are unlikely to be funded unless one of three things is true: (1) There's a "Big Name" behind the project (eg Monte's game of the year), (2) There's prior record of successful project completion, or (3) The project is <em>very</em> carefully scoped and presented.</p><p></p><p>What this means is that it's increasingly great for people who are established (in Kickstarter or generally), but not at all great if you don't have that prior record. And if Kickstarter becomes <em>the</em> way to get a product/company funded and started, that's another closed door.</p><p></p><p>On the other side of the industry, I think it will be very interesting to see what happens if/when Paizo decide it's time to do a new edition. Because I fear there's a fundamental problem caused by the OGL - you can't get people to re-buy your Core Rulebook if you don't make significant changes, but the free nature of the OGL makes the market very resistant to making those significant changes.</p><p></p><p>(That's not to say they <em>can't</em> find a way. As I said, it will be interesting to see what happens.)</p><p></p><p>And, of course, it will be very interesting to see how 5e is doing eighteen months from now. I don't doubt it will be <em>the</em> game of this year and will be absolutely HUGE this year. But will that be sustained?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All of this is true, but what concerns me (somewhat) is the potential lost on-ramps to the hobby. Amazon et al are great for getting all manner of products, <em>provided you already know what you want</em>. But if not, they're unlikely to hook a new player.</p><p></p><p>That was something that the FLGS (and, indeed, the printed magazines) did, at least to an extent - they announced to the world, "Hey! We're here!" And both WotC and Paizo do at least some stuff to try to tie into that. Knock out those supports, and it becomes at least a bit harder to get into the hobby.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6271327, member: 22424"] That and "Funded by Kickstarter". I must admit, KS has surprised me a great deal. I expected it to be HUGE for a while and then hit a brick wall, hard. But the backlash doesn't seem to have happened (much). Instead, things seem to have settled into the "third phase" pretty smoothly - people have become much more choosy when backing projects, which means the success rate has probably gone up, which makes a widespread rejection at this stage unlikely. So, I guess I was wrong about Kickstarter. Shocking! That said... one consequence of that "third phase" is the projects are unlikely to be funded unless one of three things is true: (1) There's a "Big Name" behind the project (eg Monte's game of the year), (2) There's prior record of successful project completion, or (3) The project is [i]very[/i] carefully scoped and presented. What this means is that it's increasingly great for people who are established (in Kickstarter or generally), but not at all great if you don't have that prior record. And if Kickstarter becomes [i]the[/i] way to get a product/company funded and started, that's another closed door. On the other side of the industry, I think it will be very interesting to see what happens if/when Paizo decide it's time to do a new edition. Because I fear there's a fundamental problem caused by the OGL - you can't get people to re-buy your Core Rulebook if you don't make significant changes, but the free nature of the OGL makes the market very resistant to making those significant changes. (That's not to say they [i]can't[/i] find a way. As I said, it will be interesting to see what happens.) And, of course, it will be very interesting to see how 5e is doing eighteen months from now. I don't doubt it will be [i]the[/i] game of this year and will be absolutely HUGE this year. But will that be sustained? All of this is true, but what concerns me (somewhat) is the potential lost on-ramps to the hobby. Amazon et al are great for getting all manner of products, [i]provided you already know what you want[/i]. But if not, they're unlikely to hook a new player. That was something that the FLGS (and, indeed, the printed magazines) did, at least to an extent - they announced to the world, "Hey! We're here!" And both WotC and Paizo do at least some stuff to try to tie into that. Knock out those supports, and it becomes at least a bit harder to get into the hobby. [/QUOTE]
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