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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7048140" data-attributes="member: 20564">I'm wondering about how this works with the various abilities that happen during the first round of combat or before a foe has had their initiative come up, plus a few sanity checks.Just to set the bar, there is no "surprise round", it's just that if you are surprised during the first round of combat when your initiative comes up you may not take any actions.  (PHB pg 189.)Let's say we've got these:Alice rolls 27Bob rolls 19Charlotte rolls 4DM Denise rolls -2 for the foeUsing | for round breaks, it sounds like you will have:A|BAC|BDAC|...1. Say Bob is a Rogue (Assassin) 3 who thanks to the Assassinate feature gets advantage against anyone who has not yet taken a turn.  Would he get two turns of advantage against Denise?2. Charlotte is a Rogue (Thief) 17 who thanks to the Thief's Reflexes feature gets two turns during the first round of combat, one at your initiative and one at initiative -10.2a.  Charlotte doesn't go during the first round of combat, so does she not get to take advantage of this feature or is it delayed to HER first round of combat instead?  (Note that if surprised normally she'd lose out.)2b.  Assuming it does work, initiative -10 would be -6, so does that push that second action back to the second round of combat at initiative 14 after both Bob and Denise have had actions?  Normally it would be after Denise's (the lower init) action but before Bob's (the higher init) action.3.  Alice is playing a Barbarian 2.  Is seems she can use Reckless Attack with impunity that first round because she's going to have another action before Denise's monster goes so she won't be granting advantage anymore.  Is this what you want?  (This would be true even if Charlotte was the DM.)4.  Say Denise is actually surprised.  Surprise currently happens during the first round of combat.4a.  Does surprise not affect her since they don't go during the first round of combat, or is it instead during her first rounds of combat?4b.  Bob's Assassinate ability allows hits to turn into crits against a surprise opponent.  Normally this means first round when both you and them get an action (regardless of initiative) because surprise is first round of combat.  Does this mean he gets 2 rounds of assassinate (2nd & 3rd round) because Denise is losing a round due to negative initiative?  Or does his first attack in round two NOT get it, but when Denise's first action comes up in round 3 she's surprised so he only gets it then?4c.  If it is her first round, that means Denise's first action taken  will be in the FOURTH round of combat.  Is this also working as you  intended?(Also, how twinky is Charlotte for playing a 17th level character alongside 2nd and 3rd level characters.  But that's outside the scope.)</blockquote>

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