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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zandy" data-source="post: 1555416" data-attributes="member: 4906">I don't think you are following this correctly.  My statement applies to rolling EACH round.  On average, the PCs/monsters with higher dex/improved init will go before those without those.  Rolling Init only once can doom a PC/monster for a whole battle, which, if they are created to have better init, is a large penalty.  Sure, a high dex PC could have a round or two where the odds give them a bad roll, but it will usually even out.  Wow.  Your players must hate combats with you...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Thats is an awfully simplistic view of the situation.  If all 4 goblins are standing right next to each other, and never change that formation, then your situation would be true.  In most combats I've run or been in, 4 goblins or any monster don't stand close, let alone stay that way.  They spread out.  I'm not saying that doing it this way is perfect, but it simply makes the combats more exciting.  It CERTAINLY isn't more complicated or time consuming then rolling initiative for EIGHT goblins in a combat.I agree that in combat 101, you need to concentrate attacks.  I do so on both sides of the DM screen.  But in reality, it just doesn't happen that consistently to make a difference that I'd want to roll bunches of inits.</blockquote>

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