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<blockquote data-quote="Beefermatic" data-source="post: 6916737" data-attributes="member: 6670757"><p>Hey RPWT! Thanks for the feedback! </p><p></p><p>I disagree, homogenization of Omnific beings only comes from a lack of understanding of the system and a lack of vision on how to fix it. A good DM should make their own solutions based on the scenario, I have several examples, the new Eschotolic Dragon, the Gankyil, for instance, has 'Omnific Mimic' right? Mimic in the IH Ascension handbook has no cosmic, transcendent or Omnific variants of these powers, a bad DM would just allow the ability as is, and it would be utterly game breaking as some lvl 40 diety could mimic a Time Lord's Expression of Power simply by witnessing it, and that's retarded. </p><p></p><p>So many of these beings are made to be taken with a grain of salt. People looking for balance in these games again are looking in the wrong place, even standard 3.5 balance isn't there. </p><p></p><p>A basic Fighter at lvl 20 is no where near the power of an equally leveled Sorcerer, and also on that note regarding homogenization, any sufficiently leveled being in standard 3.5 is going to appear homogenized to a low enough level being. Example: a lvl 5 fighter comes across a lvl 20 Sorcerer and a lvl 20 Fighter, the two of them will likely have powerful magic gear, items and weapons, and will appear incredibly impressive no matter what they do, and even if that fighter got in a straight no magic sword fight with that lvl 20 Sorcerer, by sheer levels and attack bonus alone he will be that low level fighter's superior, even with a poor attack bonus and likely very little actual armor on the Sorcerer's part. My point is is that things, when you actually play them out, especially from low levels all the way to Omnific levels, which I have done several times at this point, are not nearly as cut and dry as it seems initially. </p><p></p><p>Based on the way one plays out their character, you'll see certain 'key abilities', such as the Body/Mind/Soul/Spirit abilites, as the bonuses they give are incredible and before Abrogate comes into play give a massive edge that never loses power, Template powers are very strong, Abrogate, as I stated, is a bread and butter ability, without Abrogate many times you're simply toast, Apostasy is another as there are beings who can without save change your alignment and subsequentially instantly defeat you, so a certain amount of abilities need to be spend a certain way, however, this is no different thatn 3.5 again, as in 3.5 you'll be spending your hard earned gold, ability points, and feats on better armor, better spells, stat bonuses and the like, just to be able to survive the encounters your DM throws at you, it doesn't matter if you want to be a Paladin with a 20 intellect who's a scribe, you'll end up doing that sure, but you'll also spend plenty of money, time, and effort into things like weapons, armor, items, Str, Con, and Cha to better help you survive the campaign and not be relegated to being a 'Hopeless' character. </p><p></p><p>Also, regarding the Eschatolic Dragons, and The Akashic Aspects, the Words of Chaos are not trivial, only a single being in existence, besides the Supreme Being has access to a given Word, so Reim is the only one who can use SinKuRyEpSu for instance as he is in fact those Words incarnate, they aren't something one can learn, not even for incredibly powerful beings, only something one can be granted, the Eschatols on the other hand, though vastly, mind numbingly, powerful can potentially have several Dragons in their clade, there could be a whole Flight of Impossibility Dragons outside of this current Omniverse, The Annorath is one a several Infinity Dragons, though in this particular timestream, or fatestream, he is the only one here. The Eschatolic Dragons deal more with vast concepts, not specific traits of the Multiverse. Reim might be the Akashic Aspect of Darkness, but Oros the Taiji Dragon is the Dragon of Absolute Nothingness, Diaz might be the Aspect of Light, but The Annorath is the Dragon of Infinity, see the difference? One is a specific idea, a specific element created by the Supreme Being to make the Universe function as we see it, the the other is a much more vast and broad sweeping concept, something that even encompasses the Supreme Being in it's vastness.</p><p></p><p>So Thychen, the Supreme Being, only has one of each such Dragon in Existence, that is, his Reality. Throughout the Pleroma, there is only one, One Gankyil, One Taiji, One Wuji, Nothingness, Infinity, Impossibility, however outside the binds of the Pleroma and all the Supreme Being controls, there are other Supreme Beings, and things that exist in that place that can challenge them, such as Gankyil Dragons, that may eventually even control of a Kosmos here and there. In the books they describe the Lapika, the old Supreme Beings who live within Kuvatchim, the place beyond the Pleroma, and tend to the Supreme Being, they come from somewhere, they are deposed somehow. In my Multiverse, Thychen plans on at the end of the 12th existence, passing the torch to the Annorath, at which point the Annorath will be able to read the Words of Chaos as they are the words written in the Akashic Library, the storehouse of all knowledge of all beings from mortal to god to all things beyond them that have ever existed in any multiverse in all timestreams, in all fates. They are the only one's who can grant Words of Chaos to a being, the only one, but as such, their ability is unmatched. Syno, even though only a stage 2 Highlord, can manifest any desire within any entity, regardless of power, the Ultimate however, might be able to beat some ass, but he has no access to any ability of this magnitude, he has his Rainbow Lotus, which allows him to break free of being affected by such things, but that is an act of willpower, vice knowledge of anything similar to a Word of Chaos.</p><p></p><p>Hope that clears it up. As DMs messing with the stars themselves people should play with wonder not balance, trying to balance things when many such effects have no numbers is stupid, this becomes a game of chess, not checkers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beefermatic, post: 6916737, member: 6670757"] Hey RPWT! Thanks for the feedback! I disagree, homogenization of Omnific beings only comes from a lack of understanding of the system and a lack of vision on how to fix it. A good DM should make their own solutions based on the scenario, I have several examples, the new Eschotolic Dragon, the Gankyil, for instance, has 'Omnific Mimic' right? Mimic in the IH Ascension handbook has no cosmic, transcendent or Omnific variants of these powers, a bad DM would just allow the ability as is, and it would be utterly game breaking as some lvl 40 diety could mimic a Time Lord's Expression of Power simply by witnessing it, and that's retarded. So many of these beings are made to be taken with a grain of salt. People looking for balance in these games again are looking in the wrong place, even standard 3.5 balance isn't there. A basic Fighter at lvl 20 is no where near the power of an equally leveled Sorcerer, and also on that note regarding homogenization, any sufficiently leveled being in standard 3.5 is going to appear homogenized to a low enough level being. Example: a lvl 5 fighter comes across a lvl 20 Sorcerer and a lvl 20 Fighter, the two of them will likely have powerful magic gear, items and weapons, and will appear incredibly impressive no matter what they do, and even if that fighter got in a straight no magic sword fight with that lvl 20 Sorcerer, by sheer levels and attack bonus alone he will be that low level fighter's superior, even with a poor attack bonus and likely very little actual armor on the Sorcerer's part. My point is is that things, when you actually play them out, especially from low levels all the way to Omnific levels, which I have done several times at this point, are not nearly as cut and dry as it seems initially. Based on the way one plays out their character, you'll see certain 'key abilities', such as the Body/Mind/Soul/Spirit abilites, as the bonuses they give are incredible and before Abrogate comes into play give a massive edge that never loses power, Template powers are very strong, Abrogate, as I stated, is a bread and butter ability, without Abrogate many times you're simply toast, Apostasy is another as there are beings who can without save change your alignment and subsequentially instantly defeat you, so a certain amount of abilities need to be spend a certain way, however, this is no different thatn 3.5 again, as in 3.5 you'll be spending your hard earned gold, ability points, and feats on better armor, better spells, stat bonuses and the like, just to be able to survive the encounters your DM throws at you, it doesn't matter if you want to be a Paladin with a 20 intellect who's a scribe, you'll end up doing that sure, but you'll also spend plenty of money, time, and effort into things like weapons, armor, items, Str, Con, and Cha to better help you survive the campaign and not be relegated to being a 'Hopeless' character. Also, regarding the Eschatolic Dragons, and The Akashic Aspects, the Words of Chaos are not trivial, only a single being in existence, besides the Supreme Being has access to a given Word, so Reim is the only one who can use SinKuRyEpSu for instance as he is in fact those Words incarnate, they aren't something one can learn, not even for incredibly powerful beings, only something one can be granted, the Eschatols on the other hand, though vastly, mind numbingly, powerful can potentially have several Dragons in their clade, there could be a whole Flight of Impossibility Dragons outside of this current Omniverse, The Annorath is one a several Infinity Dragons, though in this particular timestream, or fatestream, he is the only one here. The Eschatolic Dragons deal more with vast concepts, not specific traits of the Multiverse. Reim might be the Akashic Aspect of Darkness, but Oros the Taiji Dragon is the Dragon of Absolute Nothingness, Diaz might be the Aspect of Light, but The Annorath is the Dragon of Infinity, see the difference? One is a specific idea, a specific element created by the Supreme Being to make the Universe function as we see it, the the other is a much more vast and broad sweeping concept, something that even encompasses the Supreme Being in it's vastness. So Thychen, the Supreme Being, only has one of each such Dragon in Existence, that is, his Reality. Throughout the Pleroma, there is only one, One Gankyil, One Taiji, One Wuji, Nothingness, Infinity, Impossibility, however outside the binds of the Pleroma and all the Supreme Being controls, there are other Supreme Beings, and things that exist in that place that can challenge them, such as Gankyil Dragons, that may eventually even control of a Kosmos here and there. In the books they describe the Lapika, the old Supreme Beings who live within Kuvatchim, the place beyond the Pleroma, and tend to the Supreme Being, they come from somewhere, they are deposed somehow. In my Multiverse, Thychen plans on at the end of the 12th existence, passing the torch to the Annorath, at which point the Annorath will be able to read the Words of Chaos as they are the words written in the Akashic Library, the storehouse of all knowledge of all beings from mortal to god to all things beyond them that have ever existed in any multiverse in all timestreams, in all fates. They are the only one's who can grant Words of Chaos to a being, the only one, but as such, their ability is unmatched. Syno, even though only a stage 2 Highlord, can manifest any desire within any entity, regardless of power, the Ultimate however, might be able to beat some ass, but he has no access to any ability of this magnitude, he has his Rainbow Lotus, which allows him to break free of being affected by such things, but that is an act of willpower, vice knowledge of anything similar to a Word of Chaos. Hope that clears it up. As DMs messing with the stars themselves people should play with wonder not balance, trying to balance things when many such effects have no numbers is stupid, this becomes a game of chess, not checkers. [/QUOTE]
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