Inside Joke or Insidious Joke

[Hypersmurf]

PHB, page 177.

Hmm.

So does that mean that an undead can voluntarily choose to be subject to a magical effect that has a Fort save, even if that effect does not apply to objects?

-Hyp.

 

[Someone]

Or a bard/wizard can create a stone golem and command it to lower its immunity to mind-affecting effects every time he sings. That would be a song that could "move" stones!

 

[Land Outcast]

Can a mindless undead be commanded to lower its immunity to mind affecting effects?

 

[Whimsical]

Polymorph any object could have petrified a planetar, I believe.

As far as WotC's intent, I think that was an oversight.

 

[MarkB]

That's what I was thinking as well. The remains bit mentioned says to me that Resounding Justice fell in the line of duty and was later preserved for posterity.

Rather tacky, but, well, it's not like he was going to be raised or anything later on.

Or possibly he just took the long way round, having fallen in battle a few dozen million years ago, then dropped into a peat bog and been naturally petrified, only to be unearthed by archaeologists in the present day. Not that I've any idea whether Forgotten Realms' backstory allows for such time periods.

 

[Someone]

Can a mindless undead be commanded to lower its immunity to mind affecting effects?

By the rules quoted by 3d6, seems that the answer is yes. But it´d be as a piece of rock giving up his ability to fall towards the ground and floating away.

 

[3d6]

I think there's actually an argument that fire elementals can't lower their fire immunity and so forth. The entry says "special resistance to magic" and elves are "immun[e] to magic sleep effects". It seems like you could make the argument that unless the resistance or immunity makes special reference to working against magical effects, it is just a "special resistance" not a "special resistance to magic". Obviously, that's splitting pretty fine hairs, but other interpretations lead to rather odd results (like the aformentioned burning fire elemental).