Int = IQ?

[Thornir Alekeg]

I don't think Int=IQ quite works. Median IQ is 100, so it seems fine in the middle, but at the extreme ends it breaks down.

 

[Aloïsius]

A 3 int creature is able to speak, and I think you won't find speaking human below 60 IQ. I think a dog may have 25-30 IQ.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/IQ_curve.svg/600px-IQ_curve.svg.png

 

[mcrow]

I think iq is representative of both wisdom and intelligence. In other words both need to be high to have a good iq. thats also real life iq imho.

Well, a person can be a very smart ( high IQ) person and be a complete hair-brain and have no real world smarts. Since IQ is primarily a measure of a persons to ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn. Wisdom is making the best use of available knowledge.

So, someone can be wise even if they are not that smart. A less intelligent person can some times appear to be more intelligent than they are because the make good decisions. Intelligant people can come off as very dumb just because they don't make good decisions, sort of like the absent minded professor type.

 

[JustKim]

I kind of use it as a baseline to tell me when I'm playing a character who's more, less or as intelligent as me. I've been given IQ tests a couple of times and I have a rough idea of what mine is.

 

[kenobi65]

Well, a person can be a very smart ( high IQ) person and be a complete hair-brain and have no real world smarts. Since IQ is primarily a measure of a persons to ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend ideas and language, and learn. Wisdom is making the best use of available knowledge.

So, someone can be wise even if they are not that smart. A less intelligent person can some times appear to be more intelligent than they are because the make good decisions. Intelligant people can come off as very dumb just because they don't make good decisions, sort of like the absent minded professor type.

Yeah, that's been the commonly-used distinction between Intelligence (i.e., "book learning") and Wisdom (i.e., "common sense.")

 

[DreadArchon]

Int = IQ?

Yeah, I've certainly seen some wizards with a 26 IQ...

 

[mcrow]

Yeah, that's been the commonly-used distinction between Intelligence (i.e., "book learning") and Wisdom (i.e., "common sense.")

"book learning" isn't quite it, IQ is something you are generally born with. Most people with higher IQs will always be above average for their age. Sure, if you are not allowed or given the chance to use your intelligence it can slow you down. People with high IQs tend to go for academics because it keeps their mind sharp and they learn fast, but they are already highly intelligent regardless of their training.

 

[fusangite]

Do you think Int x 10 = IQ formula works?

Nope. Because the guy who invented IQ testing stated that his test would not be able to measure above average intelligence. It was only designed for testing learning disabilities.

No subsequent modification to or defense of IQ testing indicates to me that scores over 100 accurately measure anything at all.

 

[mcrow]

Nope. Because the guy who invented IQ testing stated that his test would not be able to measure above average intelligence. It was only designed for testing learning disabilities.

No subsequent modification to or defense of IQ testing indicates to me that scores over 100 accurately measure anything at all.

Yeah, it's certainly questionable. It seems to get more inaccurate as the scores go up.

 

[S'mon]

Do you think Int x 10 = IQ formula works?

I'm using that for my Classic D&D campaign, and the 1e Monster Manual Int stats seem to have been set with that in mind (eg 1e MM Men listed as INT 8-10, which would give average IQ 90, which seems low, but is roughly accurate for the real world if IQ 100 is set as the median for northern Europe).

However INT is often treated as much more variable than this - IRL if IQ 100 is median, only about 1% of population have IQ 145+, but many D&D campaigns have INT 14 as just a bit above average.