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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7842824" data-attributes="member: 58172">These plane types refer to the planar origin of a creature:• Aberrations (Far Realm)• Celestials• Elementals• Fiends (Infernal)• Fey (Feywild)• Undead (Shadowfell)The Construct type is awkward, but relates to being made artificially out of the ‘stuff’ of the planar origin:• ConstructsThese form types refer to the form of a creature:• Beasts• Dragons• Giants• Humanoids• Monstrosities• Oozes• PlantsSo there are plane types and form types.The list of plane types remains incomplete.The Astral Plane is missing from the list of plane types. Also, the Neutral Planes (LE, N, CN) that are neither Celestial (Good) nor Infernal (Evil), are absent from the list.I view the Great Wheel as parts of the Astral Plane whose nature is an alignment. The rest of the Astral Plane is unaligned. The Celestial Planes are aligned with Good, and the Infernal planes are aligned with Evil, but perhaps what really makes them distinct from the rest of the Astral Plane is their connection to the Positive Plane or the Negative Plane, respectively.So, ‘Astrals’ is missing from the list of plane types, and it can also cover the Neutral Planes.‘Ethereals’ is missing from the list.  I view Feywild and Shadowfell as aspects of the Ethereal plane. What makes them distinct from the rest of the Ethereal is their connection to the Positive Plane or the Negative Plane, respectively.The list of the form types seems to represent the Material Plane. Inferably, if a Material creature became entirely otherworldly, thus no longer persisted as an aspect of the Material Plane, then the Material form would cease to be a ‘fundamental nature’ of the creature.This potential loss of a form type relates to why the Eladrin is either Humanoid or Fey, but not both. If Eladrin are Fey, then they are utterly otherworldly and unable to relate to humans. In other words, Eladrin who are Fey have no soul. Those Eladrin who are Humanoid have somehow gained a human-like soul.Likewise, celestials and fiends lack souls. The souls of the dead who enter the celestial or infernal, probably need to remain ‘humanoid’, rather than becoming a celestial or a fiend.</blockquote>

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