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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 4983490" data-attributes="member: 20805">That is my point exactly.. being hit can be part of a fun game!I roll my dice in the open and have actually focused fire on the Ranger in an out-and-out attempt to slay the character..after the Clerics vow <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> {and the player is okay with this.. he actually wants to change characters but doesnt want to simply swap out mid-dungeon}The Ranger is a more recent addition to the gaming group.. the Rogue has been cautious for a long time, but has started to loosen up after seeing the Ranger get down near death and still survive.As a player, I agree with AbdulAlhazred.. 4e is much more about the capability of the party as a whole, not the individual ability of my character. If I am weak in an area or two, thats generally okay as my team-mates should have me covered.</blockquote>