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IPhone 4s = overanticipated

All I know is the 4S looks like a significant step up from my current 3GS; faster chips, much better camera, potentially scary HAL-like voice interface.


Yep, I agree with Janx, folks like you are the target market for the 4s. It is a great upgrade for you. And they do it without causing a bunch of turmoil to the folks already on a 4 at the moment which is cool. A two year lifecycle seems best to me, with a smaller interim upgrade between the big jumps to polish some of the rough edges.
 

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Yeah, it seems clear the 4S is squarely aimed at people who skipped the iPhone 4 or are new to Apple phones. For us, it's a perfectly reasonable upgrade. My 3GS is starting to perform a bit wonkily too... apps shutting down and behaving oddly, noticeable loss of battery life, etc.

The only thing holding me back from pre-ordering now is I'm considering getting a iPad 3 next spring, and I'm not sure I can justify having both. I do a lot of reading/surfing on my phone, and the iPad has the better form factor. I'm tempted to keep my 3GS and switch to a "free" phone when it finally kicks off.

Wait, scratch that, I'm tempted to get both the 4S and an iPad 3... but the prudent thing to do is not give in to that temptation...

... but it's hard to resist. I'm a late convert to Apple. My iPhone is only the 2nd Apple product I've bought (heck, I was a late adopter of the iPod). However, it's easily my favorite piece of consumer computer technology (and I got started w/the VIC20 as a kid...).
 
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Yep, I agree with Janx, folks like you are the target market for the 4s. It is a great upgrade for you. And they do it without causing a bunch of turmoil to the folks already on a 4 at the moment which is cool. A two year lifecycle seems best to me, with a smaller interim upgrade between the big jumps to polish some of the rough edges.

Since most people are locked into 2 year contracts, doing a 5 after only a year since the 4 would be a bummer.

Sure some folks would jump because they have more money than sense. But the rest of us would be staring at our not as cool iPhone 4 wondering "what the heck" and then waiting until the iPhone 6 anway.

Contrast to the iPad, which seems to be revving annually.

Another interesting factor is the price drops on earlier models. iOS FW tends to only support the current 3 models. So anyone buying a 3Gs on the cheap is going to be falling off the support wagon next summer when the iPhone 5 comes out.

In my nerdy eye, I don't recommend buying the older models when the new one comes out. Apple tends to expect software to be upgraded to support the new FW, and that tends to make older software fall off. Plus, the newer software takes advantage of faster hardware. Though a friend was amazed that Netflix actually worked on their iPhone 1 they still used (and that the battery is still good on it).

So, you're better off having the newest when it comes out. If you can't afford that, I gotta wonder how you were going to afford the +$30 a month data plan. Smartphones ain't cheap, and I gotta wonder how smart those of us with them really are...
 

Smartphones ain't cheap, and I gotta wonder how smart those of us with them really are...

My aforementioned father (MD) and I (Lawyer) both do fine with dumb cells. He still has a working PDA, and my Palm has been replaced by an iPod Touch.

Due to the business necessity of needing access to ePrescribe 24/7, he'll be upgrading to an iPhone soon...but I still don't see it in the cards for me.
 

My aforementioned father (MD) and I (Lawyer) both do fine with dumb cells. He still has a working PDA, and my Palm has been replaced by an iPod Touch.

Due to the business necessity of needing access to ePrescribe 24/7, he'll be upgrading to an iPhone soon...but I still don't see it in the cards for me.

Yeah, with WiFi built-in , and working in an office space, you don't really need a DataPlan. If the smartphones could be bought without the dataplan, that would cover the single-site workers who need a smartphone.
 

The only thing holding me back from pre-ordering now is I'm considering getting a iPad 3 next spring, and I'm not sure I can justify having both. I do a lot of reading/surfing on my phone, and the iPad has the better form factor. I'm tempted to keep my 3GS and switch to a "free" phone when it finally kicks off.

Yeah, the iPhone+iPad conundrum is real.

I remember reading a macworld article (on my iPad) where the author considered that very real problem for himself with his superthin MacTop, an iPad and iPhone. He was carrrying all three. And pondered if he really needed all three on his person. Out and about, the iPhone is better. easy to check in restaurants. Out in meetings or on the couch, the iPad is great, bigger screen, light enough. For real work, the laptop comes in.

But one could easily carry a dumb phone and an iPad (like Danny carries an iPod Touch) and get to info when they need. It's no clunkier than the day planner some people tote around.

I don't tend to take my iPad out and about. I use it on the couch mostly. When I travel for work, I'll carry it, for in the hotel use. I also carry my laptop as that's where the code is. I haven't fully set up for remote desktopping, which might solve that.

While I like my iPad, I probably would not have bought it (or any tablet). Mine was a gift from work. $500 is a lot of dough for what I use it for.
I use my iPhone all the time for checking movies, email, etc, so the value is there for me, and since I always carry a cellphone, it wins.
 

But one could easily carry a dumb phone and an iPad (like Danny carries an iPod Touch) and get to info when they need. It's no clunkier than the day planner some people tote around.

*cough*I'm getting an iPad this month...as a birthday gift. I figure I may use it primarily as an eReader and video watching device, so I may not be carrying it everywhere.

I'm also buying an iPod Classic soon- I need the 160GB music storage capacity.

But I'm sticking with the dumb phone: for that task, I want my phone to be a phone first & foremost. For speed & ease of use, I've yet to see a smartphone that does "being a phone" faster or better.
 

I'm still on an iPhone 3G and it's on it's last legs. It's slow and freezes all the time, despite my cleaning it out a few times and starting from scratch. It takes forever to use GPS based apps. I can't wait for the 4S.
 

*cough*I'm getting an iPad this month...as a birthday gift. I figure I may use it primarily as an eReader and video watching device, so I may not be carrying it everywhere.

I'm also buying an iPod Classic soon- I need the 160GB music storage capacity.

But I'm sticking with the dumb phone: for that task, I want my phone to be a phone first & foremost. For speed & ease of use, I've yet to see a smartphone that does "being a phone" faster or better.

As a business combo, DumbPhone + iPad would probably be pretty effective. It's easier to read/use than iPod Touch/iPhone. If you're always in Wifi range, you'll be able to save on not needing a dataplan.

Since Steve's passed, some folks have been asking me what Apple's going to do (any techie amidst non-techies get asked this kind of thing).

I don't expect much from the hardware side until some new technology comes out that enables something very different. Processors, memory, screens and cameras will always get faster and smaller. Form factors are just art.

While many of Apple's products have been acknowledged as Art, I suspect Steve didn't design them personally, so I hope Apple keeps up with having designers, not just engineers working on it.

That said, where Apple has always wowed us with a nice case, the key has always been software. As long as Apple keeps taking the best ideas and integrating them seemlessly into their system, they win.

Right now, I see opportunities for:
easier keyboarding, it's a PITA to type an email. Expect them to steal the best ideas from Android, which allows for swapping in keyboard apps.

Siri will probably continue to evolve, making voice control a useful alternative

identity management. right now, iPhones are single-user devices that are reluctantly shared with the kids so they'll play Angry Birds and shut-up. As my wife said to one annoying kid, "No, you can't play on my iPhone, you'll mess up my game save"

it took Windows a while to make "logging in" a standard and simple process for the family PC. iOS will need something akin to it.

This is where that front-facing camera will kick in. Facial recognition will see who's swiping the screen and open up that user's profile.

Assuming this pay by phone thing is going to take off, iMoney will integrate with all the banks, so Apple's native app will do the pay-by-phone thing. I'd rather trust a native app to load fast enough. Plus, consider that anything that Google or Amazon does is under consideration for Apple to directly do it themselves.

Just a few ideas of what Apple may add. I don't think any of those are ooh wow ideas, but practical stuff Apple will do as a matter of course.

To a certain extent, with the AppStore, a lot of the ooh wow ideas are done there, rather than at Apple.
 

As a business combo, DumbPhone + iPad would probably be pretty effective. It's easier to read/use than iPod Touch/iPhone. If you're always in Wifi range, you'll be able to save on not needing a dataplan.

While true, that iPod Touch is just SOOOO much more portable. And I'm thinking about getting one of those wifi hot spot devices. Supposedly, that's faster than wifi since it foes all 3G/4G on the tech side.

Don't get me wrong- I'll find a good use for my iPad...Digitech's IPB-10 is looking pretty good.
 

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