(IR) 4th ooc-thread of the 5th IR

[Airwhale]

I don't think anyone minds Edena... I think we are all excited to get started!

 

[Anabstercorian]

I don't mind a whit.

 

[Bugbear]

TO DEVILISH

The drow submit the details of the TEC Pact, as requested:

Anabstercorians' power of Rary/Greyhawk/The Bright Lands
Bugbears' power of Greater Nyrond
Edena_of_Neiths' power of the Queendom of Eclavdor (the Drow and Yuan-Ti)
Guilt Puppys' power of the Scarlet Brotherhood
Kalanyrs' power of Miranda/Marchwards/Elvanian Forest/Gigantea/Hyperboria
Knight Otus' power of Greater Aerdi
Melkors' power of the Vampires/Ivid/Sahuagin
Nac Mac Feegles' power of the Iron League/Ulek League/Isle of the Phoenix.
Paxus' power of the Wolf God and his people.
Rikandurs' power of Iuz and the Empire of Iuz.
Sollirs' power of the Empire of Lynn.
Thomas' power of Aliador/Celene/Lendores/The Theocracy
Uveneleis' power of the Tempest of Hell and the Tharquish Empire.
Venus' power of Orcreich/Greater Khanate/Lesser Khanate.

The Charter of the TEC Pact (this is the original charter)

1: An attack upon one member of the TEC Pact is an attack on all the members of the TEC Pact.

2: All members of the TEC Pact are required to meet any single attack with an equivalent counterattack: If one TEC Pact member is attacked by 10,000 warriors, then all the TEC Pact members must attack the attacker with 10,000 warriors.
If any individual TEC Pact power has no way to issue a counterattack to help out as the TEC Pact requires, it had better have a good reason why it could not meet its' obligations.

3: If an attack is made directly upon any of the leaders ((Player Characters)) of the TEC Pact powers, all the TEC Pact members must immediately send as much force as is required to protect those leaders and drive off the attackers. In addition, all leaders and their following (significant NPCs) have guaranteed protection in each others' safeholds and territories.

4: TEC Pact powers must use their magic and/or psionics to ensure their individual power and it's leaders immediately knows if another TEC Pact leader is under attack, so they can immediately send help to save that leader.

5: If a TEC Pact member commits treason by attacking another TEC Pact member with Armies, or allies with Vecna, or otherwise does something obviously treasonous, the penalty for said treason is the destruction of that power, the burning of its' lands, and the massacre of its' people. This Retribution against treason is to be undertaken immediately by all TEC Pact members.

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TEC Pact Addendum:

3 or 4 of the TEC Pact members have Opt-Out Clauses. They required these Opt Out Clauses as prerequisites to joining the Pact.
If they Opt out of the Pact, that is not considered a hostile act. They do lose all rights and protections of the Pact immediately, though.

An IC Summit is to be held ((on Turn 1)) to work out further addendum and strategem of the TEC Pact and its' members.

I think that a clause should be included to prevent Pact members from being drawn into wars of aggression. The way it is written now, if one of us attacks another nation and that nation tries to defend itself, then all pact members will have to attack the defender. This goes against the main purpose of the Pact, which is as I understand it to keep us from getting into silly wars when Vecna may be coming. As written, the Pact does not ensure peace, only Armegedon.
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And I have no problem with you running Thomas's power while he is gone. This way at least there will be one elven power that hates the Drow as much as Eclavdra says they do
If he shows up in the middle of turn one will you reliquish it to him then or wait until the next turn?

 

[Edena_of_Neith]

If Thomas shows up, I will relinquish control of his power to him immediately.
Thomas put a lot of work into his power. And others did research on Aliador.
I did not think all that effort and time should have been lost.

Concerning problems with the TEC Pact, that is why the drow called for the TEC Summit, to now be held in the capital city of the Yuan-Ti Empire, their ally.

The elves of Celene and the Lendores, as per Canon, hate the drow immensely, obviously.

As for the Elves of Aliador ... they do not hate the drow.
They feel very sorry for the drow. They feel very great pity for them. They feel very horrified by what has happened to them. The way you'd feel pity and horror for a dog that had once been a very loving, loyal pet, but which had been bitten by a rabid animal, and was now dying a horrible, painful, frightful death ... and you couldn't even do anything to lessen it's pain, much less save it.
The good drow of Eilistraee are welcome, have been welcome for millennia, in Aliador.
The elves of Aliador, are chaotic good (as I see chaotic good.)

 

[Sollir Furryfoot]

I don't mind Edena's taking control of Thomas' power.

 

[Kalanyr]

Elluvan:
The ambassador will then thank you for your kindness, and ask if you wish to sign into the Miranda Pact.

 

[Edena_of_Neith]

Ok, I am assuming control of Thomas' power.
I will submit a template for Turn 1 to Serpenteye ASAP.
I wish to thank you all for your vote of confidence in my integrity as a player. Thank you. I do appreciate it.

I shall refer to Thomas' power as the Elves of Aliador. I will play his power until he returns, and then cede it to him immediately.

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The Elves of Aliador are considering the Pact of Miranda, set up by Kalanyrs' Miranda. They have not made up their minds on it yet.
Would someone describe to them the Miranda Pact? they ask.

The Elves are considering the Greyhawk Defense Pact, proposed by Williams' Baklunish Empire. They have not made up their minds on it yet.
Would someone describe to them the Greyhawk Defense Pact? they ask.

The Elves are considering the Pact of Neutrality proposed by James' Aestia/Polaria. They have not made up their minds on it yet.
Would someone describe to them the Pact of Neutrality? they ask.

The Elves of Aliador wish to understand:

What is the TEC Pact about? They ask this of everyone they offer diplomatic relations to.
Everyone is making an alliance with the drow? The drow??? The DROW??!!


The Elves of Aliador offer to open diplomatic relations with:

The World of Ginsel (Airwhale/Zelda.)
Suhfang (Album X)
Greyhawk (Anabstercorian)
Burundi (Azmodean)
Greater Nyrond (Bugbear)
Dragons' Isle (DralonXitz)
The League of Athyr (Eluvan)
Zindia and Nippon (Festy Dog)
Polaria and Aestia (James)
Miranda/Marchwards/Elvanian Forest/Gigantea/Hyperboria (Kalanyr)
Aerdi (Knight Otu),
The Iron League (Nac Mac Feegle)
The Celestial Imperium/Sikari (Radiant)
The Empire of Lynn (Sollir)
The Baklunish Empire (William)
Highfolk/Delrune/Chauntosbergen/Vesve Forest (Xael)

The Elves of Aliador make no offers of diplomatic relations with:

The illithid (Creamsteak)
The Solistarim/Acererak (Devilish)
The Queendom of Eclavdor/The Drow/Yuan-Ti (Edena_of_Neith)
The Scarlet Brotherhood (Guilt Puppy) (Due to it's long history of massacre)
The Vampires/Ivid/Sahuagin (Melkor)
The Wolf God/Humanoids (Paxus)
Iuz, the Empire of Iuz (Rikandur)
The Tempest of Hell, Tharquish Empire (Uvenelei)
Orcreich, the Orcs (Venus) (Due to the fact these are orcs)

Not yet, at least. The elves would be willing to deal with these powers through intermediaries.

 

[Rikandur Azebol]

Racists, these elves, I dare to say.

Och, and I made mistake thinking that Celene belongs to Eluvan, sorry my'friend. And to Thomas, too.

I will write @mail to Radiant, Edena. What is stopped im from writing, I wonder ?

 

[Kalanyr]

Edena (Thomas's power)

The Miranda Pact is a similar statement of non-aggression between the signatorees, the signatorees agree that they will not attack another signatoree and that they will enforce the pact.

Current Signatorees:
Baklunish Empire (William)
The Drow (Edena)
The Circle of Eight (Xael)
Miranda Alliance (aka Me)
Burundi (Azmodean)

And Elluvan's power is currently being offered entry. (League of Athyr)
Festy Dogs power is considering entry also. (Zindia/Nippon)

(I may have forgotten some signatorees if so please let me know).

 

[Kalanyr]

Edena (Thomas's Power)
PRIVATE!
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The TEC pact is a mutual agreement by various nations (largely of neutral and evil alignments with 2? excpetions) to defend each other from attack. We believe that it is merely being used by various factions to buy time to carry out their plans, and so we've also signed up for this reason.
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The Greyhawk Defense treaty is merely an agreement by various nations to stop powers deemed hostile to the good of Oerth from taking the city of Greyhawk, I believe currently these powers are Iuz and Vecna.

You are already signatories to the Pact of Neutrality, everyone was signed up with or without their consent. The Pact of Neutrality effectively says you will not attack Aestia unless you first divest them of their land on the southern ice caps, or they cease being Neutral or their climate changes ? Possibly AND all those things I'm unclear.