Iron Man 2, Thor announced for 2010

[Felon]

It would be fun if they used little post credit snippets like the introduction of Fury to keep tying these together and building towards Avengers.

Michael, that was a great post. Seems to follow a very logical process.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

As I recall, the seemingly neverending Marvel Zombies nonsense got started in Ultimate Fantastic Four. I regard that series as the "Lobo" of this decade: the equivalent of a baby-in-a-microwave joke that is maybe cute and shocking the first time you heard it, but not the tenth or twentieth time.

Say what you want, but Marvel Zombies vs. Army of Darkness was absolutely awesome.

 

[Fast Learner]

So, it appears that Tony was working on Cap's shield.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

So, it appears that Tony was working on Cap's shield.

I'm iffy on that one...kind of looks like a stretch, but who knows.

We already have seen from the Incredible Hulk trailers that the serum used to create Abomination of blue and white and is supposedly an attempt at the super soldier. Sooooo, its possible...

 

[Amellia]

Hi guys... I just joined up, and part of the reason I did was 'cause I saw all this superhero movie talk, and got excited! I work in entertainment and media, and every so often I get a leg up (leaks, spoilers, advanced screenings, etc.) so hopefully I can hook you up with that stuff when I find it. So I wanted to introduce myself, but mostly jump right in.

To the rumors of McConaughey and Pitt as Cap and Thor, Marvel hasn't given any official word on that yet, but my opinion is that McConaughey might be able to do it -- Captain America's got that well-known all-American thing going for him, and having a known actor in the role could actually sort of work, where it wouldn't have with Spidey or Batman as well. Brad Pitt as Thor, in my opinion, is just ridiculous. I really doubt Marvel would go with that.

You know all this villain talk has got me wondering. How well would a traditional superhero (thus excluding The Watchmen) film do without a "main villain"?

I think a superhero movie does have to have a main villain. Particularly in the first of a series -- the hero must go through several lesser villains, building up to the final villain, in order to prove himself (and also not be immediately badass at the end of the movie with the big villain). But just as the lesser villains are necessary, the main villain is necessary for a sense of closure and satisfaction. Even if the movie's open-ended, some sort of showdown with a main antagonist leaves movie-goers (or comic readers) with a sense of fulfillment. That's what we pay to see, after all.

Extending that opinion a little, I would guess Loki will show up at the end of the Thor movie, or sporadically through it as an "unknown." I would guess we get shown Thor as some guy with wiped memories who starts discovering his powers, and delves deeper and deeper and meets the "lesser" villains along the way, leading up to Loki as being behind it all toward the end. I wouldn't be surprised if Loki becomes a figure much like Magneto in the X-Men films -- always there, not always the main villain, but certainly with a finger in all the pies going around.

 

[Michael R. Proteau]

To the rumors of McConaughey and Pitt as Cap and Thor, Marvel hasn't given any official word on that yet, but my opinion is that McConaughey might be able to do it -- Captain America's got that well-known all-American thing going for him, and having a known actor in the role could actually sort of work, where it wouldn't have with Spidey or Batman as well. Brad Pitt as Thor, in my opinion, is just ridiculous. I really doubt Marvel would go with that.

I really really hope they don't cast McConaughey as Cap. It would be a horrible casting decision. Cap is more about presence than looks. He inpsires and is able to lead people into battle to put it all on the line to do the right thing. McConaghly image is a spineless slacker whiner in most of his roles and I just don't see him as having the charisma or screen presence to make it believable that power houses and strong personalities like Fury, Iron Man and Thor would follow him to the bathroom let alone into battle.

 

[Amellia]

I definitely agree, don't get me wrong. I don't want to see McConaughey in the role any more than you do. I think it would be a mistake. That said, I don't think it would be the total laughable disaster that other casting decisions might be. *cough*BradPittasThor*cough*

Hopefully Marvel will at least announce alternatives that they're considering soon, to put an end to the rumors.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I get the feeling McConaughey COULD do all those things he would need to do for Cap...its just the question of would he, really. One could argue that there are many actors who do the same thing again and again and get an image of what they are, then make a movie that goes completely against that and it WORKS. Not saying he'd be my first choice for a Cap, I'm definitely in the camp of a relative unknown, but I'm not willing to write it off completely just yet.

Same with Brad Pitt as Thor. Especially if its more Ultimate Thor. 616 Thor is something I highly doubt we'll see, at least completely, and I can definitely see Brad Pitt as a some version of an Ultimate Thor.

 

[Felon]

You know all this villain talk has got me wondering. How well would a traditional superhero (thus excluding The Watchmen) film do without a "main villain"?

Could it rake in the bucks with simply the interplay between the superhero and the world, or does there need to be that main antagonist?

I state this to considering with Iron Man, while there is conflict there, the main "villain" in the form of Iron Monger didn't add much it was simply in my eyes a combat set-piece and could have been gone from the movie without harming it.

Well, some of the best Batman stories didn't have a sueprvillain. Get past Joker and maybe Ras Al Ghul, the good villains start dwindling away quickly.

For instance, the four-part "Venom" story from Legends of the Dark Knight would make a great screenplay.

 

[Umbran]

Same with Brad Pitt as Thor.

Pitt isn't short, but he's not anywhere near buff enough to play the Thunder God, and I would not expect him to come up with the bodybuilder physique required.