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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8716367" data-attributes="member: 67338">so you don't have any numbers, it isn't up to us BUT you know it doesn't bother MOST folks cause you just know... and I can't forget telling someone trying to relate an issue it 'sucks to be them'I would agree if it was me and the 2 players that played since 95 and that take apart and build house rules like crazy... we may notice things others miss, and we may have issues a 'causal user' doesn't.but even before covid I have seen a shift. New players more likely to gravitate to warlock then fighter. new DMs asking for help with why it is that a caster can 1 shot some encounters, or with the right spell just make some encounter/hazzard not matter at all.  Last time I saw people complaining was as 3.5 was winding down. go on D&D tic tok and watch people talk about how in there 3rd or 4th session they are asking to swap fighter for another class that has 'cool buttons' causal players are noticing. I do wonder though... what number of people that seem to have a vested intrest in shutting down this conversation are causal compaired to avid users... I bet we have close enough to 0 that we can round to 0 causal players on enworld on any given day.citation needed.it works okay for YOU.  You already admited you can't say 'most folk'so you don't think anyone sat down to there first game and noticed a power discrepancy between fighter and druid?that's funny in my thoughts they abandoned 4e to try to win back the avid fans that went to PF. The new players are complete wild cards what way they will fall.no I don't need to prove it is a BIG issue, just that it is an issue, and no amount of gatekeeping or silencing or "We all know it's your fault" is going to stop me from showing it over and over and over again.and yet you claim to know what those are?</blockquote>

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