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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8716509" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Again: these things are for when you need to determine what a skill DC should be, once you already know that this is something that is easy, ordinary, hard, etc. for a character of a given level. The following table, for example, was published in the Rules Compendium:As you can see, these things have fixed DCs. They are NOT scaled to match the party. That's because automatically scaling DCs to match the party is not what the rules do. It's exactly the same as the other charts on page 42, such as the one about how much damage an improvised attack should do. The Page 42 DCs are for aiding improvisation, not for rigid lockstep level-scaling. A character does not automatically do more damage with attacks simply because they are higher level. Instead, once it's apparent that the player wants to make an improvised attack, then the chart will tell you what is an appropriate effect, given the effort put in and how replicable the attack is (e.g., if they're throwing over a burning brazier, meaning it can't be used again, it is reasonable that it should do more damage than something which can be used repeatedly, unless you as DM feel that that is not correct.)All of these tables are purely to provide easier DMing, by making improvisation rigorous and well-balanced. They perform that function exceedingly well. They emphatically DO NOT tell the DM to make it so every single skill check the players make MUST have a DC scaled to the character's level.</blockquote>

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