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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8716903" data-attributes="member: 63508">Part of the reason why I say some of it wasn't purposeful design is that some of the residual stuff was finalized after the playtest or very very late. Like the reason for so many wonky subclasses in early 5e was because subclasses weren't finalized as a thing until Fall 2013. And feats were require and in trees before then. So the whole class feature system, subclass system and design for Tier 1-4 had to be redone in 6 months in the last few packets. And proficiency was just being applied to all classes equally then. And if the casses weren't done, then then monsters and obstacles weren't done either. 5e was just a list of feats, class features, monsters, spells, and advantage/disadvantage 10 months before the PHB was published.As a procrastinator, I know what rushing out a product and it ending up looking like what the customer ordered looks like. 5e had a load of luck. XGTE and TCOE displays that the outside was just pretty enough for the zeitgiest to accept it that there was time go back and fix the guts to match something closer to what the community really wanted.</blockquote>