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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8717067" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>skills are VERY DM dependent... someone above posted all the things religion let you do in 4e, and I doubt many DMs would let it in 5e. I am pretty lenient with what you can or can not do (except with athletics/acrobatics... I will almost NEVER allow acrobatics in place of an athletics check just because Dex is SOOO much more useful then str) but I saw a DM at my FLGS tell a player they couldn't use insight to see if an NPC was lying or not, they had to figure it out themselves... and later in that campaign I heard (not myself but by story of others in store) the same DM would not allow a rogue with expertise in persuasion to use it to bluff someone... because "sorry I know it's not true my NPC an't falling for it"</p><p>I also argue even in my own group about making athletics checks to get a little more distance on a jump (I allow it but 2 out of 3 of the other regularity DMs don't)</p><p></p><p>One that came up not super long ago but in the last campaign was is it Investigation, Perception, or tool use Theives tools (or in theory tool use tinker tools) to look for a trap on a chest? (and if it is a tool what stat goes with it... can you do theives tools/dex?) of the 5 of us at the virtual table we ended up with 5 "I would say X" answers with 3 of us (including me) hedgeing with "But I would also maybe allow Y or Z if it made sense" </p><p></p><p>now in all these cases the DM gets the final call... but boy is it weird how open to interpretation it is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8717067, member: 67338"] skills are VERY DM dependent... someone above posted all the things religion let you do in 4e, and I doubt many DMs would let it in 5e. I am pretty lenient with what you can or can not do (except with athletics/acrobatics... I will almost NEVER allow acrobatics in place of an athletics check just because Dex is SOOO much more useful then str) but I saw a DM at my FLGS tell a player they couldn't use insight to see if an NPC was lying or not, they had to figure it out themselves... and later in that campaign I heard (not myself but by story of others in store) the same DM would not allow a rogue with expertise in persuasion to use it to bluff someone... because "sorry I know it's not true my NPC an't falling for it" I also argue even in my own group about making athletics checks to get a little more distance on a jump (I allow it but 2 out of 3 of the other regularity DMs don't) One that came up not super long ago but in the last campaign was is it Investigation, Perception, or tool use Theives tools (or in theory tool use tinker tools) to look for a trap on a chest? (and if it is a tool what stat goes with it... can you do theives tools/dex?) of the 5 of us at the virtual table we ended up with 5 "I would say X" answers with 3 of us (including me) hedgeing with "But I would also maybe allow Y or Z if it made sense" now in all these cases the DM gets the final call... but boy is it weird how open to interpretation it is. [/QUOTE]
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