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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8728071" data-attributes="member: 71699">Some people. The other factors contributed, and there was something special about the game.Have we reached the trading of assertions part of the discussion? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure    :unsure:"  data-smilie="24"data-shortname=":unsure:" /> That said, I think your last thought is right: no one has yet suggested any convincing way to isolate and prove which are the contributing factors. I have looked at the %age positive and %age negative review rates for a range of RPGs, and read the testimonials, and it seems to me that it is something about the game design that is "special" in driving success for a wide audience over and above contextual factors. It's form and function, as well as position. I look at the design, and as I (like most here) have a thorough knowledge of the previous editions, it looks to my expert eye to be an especially nice piece of design work. Is it perfect? No. Is it special? Yes. At least in my view. And it's not alone in contemporary RPGs that are also special (in their different ways.)</blockquote>