Is Amaunator Back in Faerûn!?

[hexgrid]

Raven - the problem with your post, aside from the fact that you seem incapable of posting without being insulting and rude, is that it's 100% speculation. There's no proof of any of that. Like so many fan made explinations for the inexplicable in 4e FR, it's just that - fan made. You could just as easily say "Because those youtube videos made him look homosexual, he changed names to avoid that reputation." Hey, look - my reason there has just as much - or just as little - verification from WotC.

If it's just as easy to come up with an explanation that makes sense, why insist on one that doesn't?

 

[Starbuck_II]

If it's just as easy to come up with an explanation that makes sense, why insist on one that doesn't?

Spite, Stubbornness, and being set in ones ways.

Or you just don't agree with explaination: after all, look at Fox Muldur: sure he could believe that someone stole his sister instead of Aliens, but does he?
No, he believes it was aliens.

 

[Umbran]

It might be easier for you to make connections if you didn't approach things with such a closed mind. Trying to paint everything as "LOL I'M ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT ANY GRAMMAR" writing, which you constantly do with anything you don't like, just makes you look like a fool.

We expect everyone to treat other posters on EN World, and their ideas, with respect. If you find you cannot meet that expectation, we ask that you don't post. This should not be difficult for anyone to grasp.

 

[Voadam]

We know that the original Amaunator was the keeper of time, but never acted on that portfolio because it would have stepped on the toes of Mystryl (the unofficial keeper of the time stream). Amaunator declines due to lack of worship, and is reborn as Lathander, the deity of the dawn (a more limited portfolio than the entire sun), who then rises over the centuries in power. Flash forward through the Lathander years, and through the Spellplague and you no longer have anyone minding the timestream, since Mystra bought the farm. Thus, it makes sense for the original entity intended to do so to reassert himself and reclaim his ancient duty, especially as his new form has attained much of his ancient power.

Is the 4e Amaunator a god of time? What does his current 4e description and portfolio say about him?


I saw the 4e FRCS in the store and browsed the Amaunator paragraph but can't remember most of the details. The reincarnation/transformation info really struck me at the time though as Amanautor propaganda put out to have Amaunator accepted by the general population and former Lathander clergy. This is the FR, gods get killed and have their portfolios taken by other gods and sometimes even be impersonated by other gods. Lathander and Amanautor seemed pretty distinct as entities. I don't see much of a reason for Amanautor to turn into Lathander the way Bane put a shard of himself in Iyacthu Xvim (or however the Baneson's name was spelled) as a contingency plan.

 

[Voadam]

If it's just as easy to come up with an explanation that makes sense, why insist on one that doesn't?

I believe his point was not that one should go with an explanation for an unknown that does not make sense. His point was that speculative explanations and extrapolations by fans are not the explanations provided by the source. There could be five cool ways to explain it and a hundred not cool ways but the underlying fact is that the lack of explanation is in the source and jarring.

"Throwing in these speculations and extrapolations it could make sense" is different than "It makes sense as presented in the book I am reading."

 

[MadMaxim]

Aren't we getting a little off-topic here, people? I was hoping for some of the good people possessing the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide could explain how it all came to pass that Lathander was really Amaunator and how that has affected his church? Has he changed portfolios?

 

[Weregrognard]

Aren't we getting a little off-topic here, people? I was hoping for some of the good people possessing the Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide could explain how it all came to pass that Lathander was really Amaunator and how that has affected his church? Has he changed portfolios?

That's what bothers me. There's really no information on how the church transitioned at all. Poof! A heretical priest makes his very own magical sun and suddenly the whole church is behind him? I don't buy it. The power of miracles and 100 years' time aside, I think there still have to be splinter sects that worship Lathander in his former portfolio. They may be persecuted by the Amaunatori as heretics, though.

 

[El Mahdi]

That's what bothers me. There's really no information on how the church transitioned at all. Poof! A heretical priest makes his very own magical sun and suddenly the whole church is behind him? I don't buy it. The power of miracles and 100 years' time aside, I think there still have to be splinter sects that worship Lathander in his former portfolio. They may be persecuted by the Amaunatori as heretics, though.

Maybe it's going to be in one of the novels. Although, I feel this is a crappy way of having to get Setting info, it seems like this is what they are planning to do as far as setting revelations (novels and DDI). It does feel pretty cheesy how they did this, though.

 

[Fenes]

Maybe it's going to be in one of the novels. Although, I feel this is a crappy way of having to get Setting info, it seems like this is what they are planning to do as far as setting revelations (novels and DDI). It does feel pretty cheesy how they did this, though.

It also runs counter to the "the setting was so packed and bloated it intimidated new DMs, therefore we restarted it" argument. If this is the way setting info is distributed we'll have the same situation as in 3E - lots of details, spread out among many novels. A DM who felt intimidated by the setting's detail before, or had some "player sage" to deal with will not be any better off then.

 

[MadMaxim]

That's what bothers me. There's really no information on how the church transitioned at all. Poof! A heretical priest makes his very own magical sun and suddenly the whole church is behind him? I don't buy it. The power of miracles and 100 years' time aside, I think there still have to be splinter sects that worship Lathander in his former portfolio. They may be persecuted by the Amaunatori as heretics, though.

Okay, thanks If no more specific history shows how it happened, of course, I can't ask for it, but thanks for letting me know. It's very much appreciated